1. Discuss politics - join our community by registering for free here! HOP - the political discussion forum

Trump: "There’s a fire. There’s a fire."

Discussion in 'U.S. Politics' started by reedak, Jul 24, 2020.

  1. reedak

    reedak Well-Known Member

    May 1, 2014
    Likes Received:
    Part 1

    1. Using mischievous captions as shown below, some US media are suggesting subtly to the subconscious minds of readers that the Chinese consulate in Houston has been conducting espionage activities:

    "Chinese Consulate in Houston Caught Burning Documents, Disallows Access to Fire, Police Personnel [VIDEO]"


    "Chinese Consulate in Houston Takes Bizarre Document Destruction Action as US Orders Closure"


    2. Regarding the espionage allegations by the state department, Cai (Wei, China's consul general in Houston, Texas) said the US needed to provide the evidence behind such accusations.

    "Say something from the facts, this is the basic requirement for diplomats," he said. "I know (Americans) call that the rule of law and that you are not guilty until you're proven (guilty) ... where's the proof?"

    Source: https://www.msn.com/en-sg/news/worl...er-damage-relations/ar-BB175B3k?ocid=msedgdhp

    3. During the press conference, Mr. Trump referred to the news reports of fire in the Chinese Consulate in Houston apparently due to burning of documents in its courtyard.

    "You see what’s going on. We thought there was a fire in the one that we did close. And everybody said, ‘There’s a fire. There’s a fire.’ And I guess they were burning documents or burning papers, and I wonder what that’s all about," he said.

    Source: https://www.thehindu.com/news/inter...down-consulate-in-houston/article32169911.ece

    4. In his comment, Trump seemed to respond to Cai Wei's question "Where's the proof?" He seemed to be using "The Art of the Con" to suggest subtly to the subconscious minds of all people that the burning of documents is the proof of Chinese spying in his messianic chant "There’s a fire. There’s a fire."

    On the other hand, Trump may be so ignorant and muddle-headed that he does not know that it is the standard practice for all embassies and consulates, including those of the US, to destroy all documents (whether sensitive or not) by shredding or burning especially before closing down.

    The standard practice of destroying all documents before closing down a foreign post was affirmed by Hans Stockton, The University of St. Thomas Dean of the Division of Social and Behavioral and Global Studies.

    5. “Any time a foreign ministry staff has to leave a physical location, their responsibility is to make sure there aren’t any files or information left behind,” Hans Stockton, The University of St. Thomas Dean of the Division of Social and Behavioral and Global Studies, told KPRC 2′s Rose-Ann Aragon. “This is common to any consular or embassy staff having to leave a location as quickly as this one.”

    Source: https://www.click2houston.com/news/...ost-important-things-to-know-about-the-story/

    6. Cai (Wei, China's consul general in Houston, Texas) said it was a "standard" move for diplomatic compounds from many countries to burn internal documents before leaving a foreign post.

    Source: https://www.msn.com/en-sg/news/worl...er-damage-relations/ar-BB175B3k?ocid=msedgdhp

    7. Some years ago, a friend told me that his grandmother had been working as a cleaner for a US embassy in a certain country before Second World War. What she noticed was that all unwanted paper pages in the embassy were reduced to strips before they were dumped into bins every day.

    It is utterly unthinkable and foolish for government departments, embassies and consulates of all countries to dump their documents into garbage cans to be picked up easily by anybody.

    8. Consulate closures are unusual. The U.S. ordered Russia to close its consulate in San Francisco in September 2017, allowing the country to relocate staff based there to other diplomatic outposts in the U.S. The move was part of a tit-for-tat with Moscow over tougher sanctions passed by Congress.

    “This sort of incident has been very rare -- it often happens when the relations between two countries are really, really negative,” Li Mingjiang, an associate professor with the Nanyang Technological University’s S. Rajaratnam School of International Studies. “If China wants really to hit back hard, it could target the U.S. consulate in Hong Kong.”

    Source: https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/china-vows-retaliation-after-u-s-shuts-down-houston-consulate-1.1468911

    9. In conclusion, if a US consulate in China is forced to close down in a tit-for-tat move, the US staff will also have to destroy all documents either by shredding or burning or both. In addition, they may find it necessary to destroy all compact discs, video compact discs and computer hard disks before leaving the consulate.

Share This Page

  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.
    Dismiss Notice