UK Muslims Boycott Anti-Radicalization Scheme

[Reddie]

According to a report in UK newspaper British Muslims "have been boycotting a government anti-radicalization program. Fewer than 10% tip-offs on the said scheme came from Muslims who should have more information about radicalization than anyone else.

When there is a terrorist attack Muslims say, we don't support terrorism, we condemn the act, etc, but when they are asked to report those who hold extremist views they don't. On whose side are they?

 

[Aus22]

It depends on the program . I think Muslims would like to run their own ant- extremist Projects . Some of the Mosques are doing it here in Australia

 

[Reddie]

Has the Australian program been more successful than the UK anti-radicalization scheme? How does work? The Muslims themselves identify those who've been radicalized and try to get them to change or do they report them to the authorities?

 

[dogtowner]

It depends on the program . I think Muslims would like to run their own ant- extremist Projects . Some of the Mosques are doing it here in Australia

There is nothing preventing it.

 

[Alexia]

Most of these schemes are kept local, because there are certain areas that are more prevalent. Today a Muslim couple were found guilty of plotting a terror attack in London and the man lived with his parents. I saw an interview with his parents (blacked out faces) who had no idea he was carrying out bomb tests and sending messages under their roof.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-35195311

Maybe if there had been a scheme he could have been stopped earlier?

 

[Reddie]

Maybe he could have been stopped earlier.

I believe though that when everyone knows that they can be identified by everyone else as a terrorist they could pretend to just like everyone else and do whatever they do [like planning terrorist attacks, recruiting young jihadis, etc] with other extremists a little more covertly?

And there's also this "THEM" vs "US" mentality . . .

 

[pwarbi]

There's certainly an us VS them mentality but it's easy to see why. If the Muslim communities aren't reporting the extremists that are in their areas that they know about, then that's going to cause friction.

They can't say we're not all terrorists but then protect the people that are. That at least makes them terrorist sympathisers so should also be dealt with accordingly.

 

[remnant]

The world is becoming increasingly polarized. There is a saying that if you are labelled a thief, you will come to believe you are one. This means that Muslims having been tagged terrorists will subconsciously identify more with the bombers than the proponents of deradicalization. In any case, you can't combat radicalization without addressing the bigger picture- the Palestinian question and Western oriented dictatorships dotting the Arab world whose only claim to power is the bullet.

 

[Aus22]

Australia has had some problem with terrorist. One attack. But more trouble with Anti Muslim groups who unveil banners at the football and attend Muslim functions dressed in hoods and Muslim cloths to disrupt them. What can moderate Muslims do even if they play football they are attacked

 

[pwarbi]

The majority of Muslims aren't terrorists, but the majority of terrorists are Muslims, and no matter how the liberal, lefties want to dress it up, that's a fact. Christians, Jews, other religions aren't going round blowing up innocent people. They're not going round chopping people's heads off on national TV, it's Muslims doing that.

They ARE extremists, of course they are, but they're extremist Muslims. It just seems that nobody is allowed to call it as it is these days, for fear of being called a racist but Muslim isn't a race anyway it's a religion, and maybe if we had more of these Muslim clerics come out and say it IS Muslims committing these acts but condemning it, then people would be able to seperate the two.

 

[Aus22]

pwarbi. It may be true today that the majority of terrorists are Muslims. But over history the majority of terrorists were not Muslim

 

[dogtowner]

pwarbi. It may be true today that the majority of terrorists are Muslims. But over history the majority of terrorists were not Muslim

Kinda true, it's communists. Not everyone sees them in that light though

 

[Aus22]

Dogtowner If you go even further back terrorist were not even Communist. Sometimes they were Irish campaigning for independence .Or Americans doing the same.
The problem with remembering history is that you fight the same battles again when there is no cause left to fight for.
Not remembering History means you repeat the same mistakes again.

 

[ThirdTerm]

Perhaps the programme is too intrusive and many British Muslims are offended by massive government overreach. The UK has the most security cameras in public per capita and it has become the Orwellian surveillance state since 7/7.

 

[dogtowner]

Dogtowner If you go even further back terrorist were not even Communist. Sometimes they were Irish campaigning for independence .Or Americans doing the same.
The problem with remembering history is that you fight the same battles again when there is no cause left to fight for.
Not remembering History means you repeat the same mistakes again.

The quest for power is as old as time but time and memory won't stop it.