USA Today: Republicans much more enthusiastic to vote this year than Democrats

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Remember all those polls where the pollsters sampled 20%, 30%, even 40% more Democrats than Republicans?

They were polls which would turn out accurate only if 20%, 30%, or 40% more Democrats than Republicans, actually voted on Nov. 6, 2012.

But the few polls that bothered to count, found that the number of Dems and Republicans is nearly equal this year, in the U.S.

And it gets worse: US Today has found that many Democrats are dispirited about their candidates this year, in sharp contrast to Republicans who are very enthusiastic about voting this year.

Most polls have found, to no one's surprise, that most Democrats who will vote, will do so for Obama; and most Republicans who vote will favor Romney.

But how many of each will actually vote on Nov. 6, 2012?

In significant contrast to the lopsided polls that call up to 40% more Dems than Republicans, the actual number indicate that Republicans will vote in equal or greater numbers than Democrats. Far more people are registering as Republicans than Democrats, and the enthusiasm of the Republicans is far outstripping that of the the relatively dispirited Democrats.

If each party votes in proportion to their numbers, Romney will come out with a slight edge.

And if more Democrats stay home and don't bother voting on Nov. 6, as their dispiritedness seems to indicate many of them will, then Romney could wind up with a BIG victory.

"May you live in interesting times." - ancient Chinese curse

Withe the inexplicable way the polls are skewing their results toward Obama - a trend they know they can't enforce in November - we are living in VERY interesting times.

And the evening of Nov. 6 promises to be the most interesting of all, when a "poll" is taken that (at last) pollsters cannot load with 40% more Democrats.

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http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2012/09/29/poll-obama-romney-gallup/1601125/

Republicans have opened a big enthusiasm gap: 64% say they are more enthusiastic than usual about voting, compared to 48% of Democrats. In general, though, the results show an electorate that is less excited and less engaged than in recent presidential elections.

Democrats are less enthusiastic about voting than in 2008, although Republicans are a bit more enthusiastic.

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(You have to scroll way down in the linked article. For some reason, USA Today buried the above paragraphs very deep in the text.)
 
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Year. . . GOP voters . . Dem voters (million)
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2006 . . . . 36 . . . . . . . . 42 . . . non-Presidential election, after too high Repub govt deficits and liberal programs
2008 . . . . 60 . . . . . . . . 69 . . . Presidential election, more high Repub deficits, huge enthusiasm for unknown Obama
2010 . . . . 41 . . . . . . . . 36 . . . non-Presidential election, after HUGE Dem deficits and Obama's agenda is revealed
2012 . . . . ?? . . . . . . . . .?? . . . Presidential election, after Americans find even more Obama agenda while Repubs fight tax and spending hikes

EXPLANATION

In 2006, Republican voters weren't too enthusiastic for their candidate. Their politicians had been spending like drunken sailors, GWB had signed a new Prescription Drug entitlement and other such liberal bills into law, etc.

In November 2006, only 36 million Republicans voted, while 42 million Democrats voted.

In 2008, Republicans were pretty much the same, while Democrats had an exciting new candidate they were hugely enthusiastic about.

In November 2008, 60 million Republicans voted while 69 million Democrats voted.

But in 2010, things changed. By then, many Democrats were disappointed in their formerly-exciting candidate, who seemed to spend most of his time playing golf, pushing outlandish programs, and strong-arming congressmen into taking over 1/6 of the nation's economy in a socialized-medicine progam most normal Americans didn't want. In the meantime, unemployment remained in the 8-10% range, with no end in sight. While Democrats were relatively dispirited, Republicans were up in arms over the same things, and went charging into the polls in November 2010.

In November 2010, 41 million Republicans voted, while only 36 million Democrats voted.

Now we're coming up to the 2012 elections, and things are pretty much the same things are true. Democrats are disappointed and dispirited, while Republicans are alarmed, and generating huge enthusiasm for voting.

In November 2012... well, how many Republicans do you think will vote, and how many Democrats?

More Dems voted in 2006 than GOP, and the same thing happened in 2008.

Now, more GOP voted in 2010 than Dems. Will the same thing happen in 2012?
 

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You say the polls are biased, then you say that there is a huge enthusiasm gap advantage for the GOP. How did you come by the info? A poll perhaps?
 

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watch out for more dirty ricks, like this for example


Requests from military voters for absentee ballots have dropped significantly since 2008, according to newly released statistics, prompting claims that the Department of Defense is dragging its feet in enacting a law meant to boost military voting.

The drop in the battleground states of Virginia and Ohio is among the most pronounced. According to statistics released Monday by The Military Voter Protection Project, the number of absentee ballot requests by both military members and other overseas voters in the two states has dropped 70 percent since 2008.

Virginia had nearly 42,000 total requests in 2008, compared with a little more than 12,000 this year, according to the MVP Project. Ohio had more than 32,000 in 2008, compared with 9,700 this year. The number of military voters specifically -- as opposed to military and overseas voters -- was not broken down in the latest set of statistics, but military-only numbers released by the MVP Project in August documented a similar drop-off in applications.
 

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You say the polls are biased, then you say that there is a huge enthusiasm gap advantage for the GOP. How did you come by the info? A poll perhaps?

by ignoring facts like..more people call themself dems therefor a poll will show more of them...with more right leaning people saying independant yet vote Republican...

also ignore facts like..even Fox news polls show same thing as evryone else...because the sheep don't like the results...Oddly points out polls...that ended up being accurate as far as what polls said would happen..and then the outcome...
 

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watch out for more dirty ricks, like this for example

I pulled this out of the link you posted:
The department claims that compared with 2004, the last time an incumbent president was running, the number of absentee ballots downloaded from the central military website is similar.

Unless the military has changed quite a bit over the last few years I have a very hard time believing that they are either engaged in voter suppression or not complying with a direct order. If there is any monkey-business going on here I would take a look at the secretaries of state of the states reporting unusual drop offs in military voting.
 

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During a recent Romney campaign stop, a heckler from the audience hollered,
"Hey Mitt Witt, where are you hiding your tax returns?

Governor Romney politely responded,
"I've found a very secure place where I'm certain they won't be found."

The insistent heckler, then shouted,
"And just where is that, dummy"?

Governor Romney smiled and said,
"They are underneath Obama's college records, his immigration status as a student, and his funding sources to pay for college."

"What's your next question?"
 
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