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There are no "you guys" there is just me.  I am the one who created this thread and I am the one who found the link.  That was the only link I could find.  I didnt know there was more to what he said, I heard the clip on the top of the hour news coming home and I googled to find that link and found it.

As for the John McCain quote, I had not heard it till just now, it also is not very nice.  I wonder when McCain had made that comment about her, had Hillary just days earlier said anything like Sarah said about lip stick?  Was there any reason to think he was calling "her" the pig because just days earlier she had said something about being a senator in lipstick or being a mom in lipstick?   I am not the only one who thinks it was a slam on Palin, your own post said he had to assure people it was not personal, he would not have if it had not been taken that way.

I am sorry that the hop or my thread are not good enough for you.  I hope from here on out people will have enough respect to make threads to your liking