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You want facts?


How about the fact that hamas is participating in the democratic process of nation building (they have been elected to majority in the palestinian authority's legislature) at the same time refusing to disarm?


How about the fact that the same goat-herders are using this mantle of legitimacy in addressing the un while at the same time, provoking israel to a confrontation with their provocative rhetorics and outright lawlessness?


How about the fact that these goat-herders accuse israel of inhumane military responses to their acts -- acts which are, themselves, not only against international law and the geneva convention on the rules of war, but also against the universal declaration of human rights itself?


And when confronted with this facts, the only excuse they can offer is that these armed groups are outside their control. How the hell can anyone allow a separate and independent state to exist when it has neither control nor responsibility for the actions of their armed forces?????


You need to face FACTS.


If the palestinians want a country of their own, either they need to get rid of their guns and sit at the negotiation table or go to war -- THEY CAN'T DO BOTH AT THE SAME TIME. Its time people saw goat-herder logic for what it is.


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