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Do you think there is a difference in doing these kinds of things to get someone to talk for national security reasons and doing those same things because they did not agree with you?

I might not be saying it right...

But like John McCain was subjected to a lot of torture but not to gain information, more to make him say political things or write political things.

Hitler subjected millions to torture but just because he did not like them.

So on and so on

Do you see those kinds of torture the same as if you are trying to get information to stop a bomb or an attack?

I do see it different but I don’t like that I know I am willing personally to go much further than anything written in these forums if I thought the cause was just.   I don’t think I would be willing to pass a law that anyone in charge can do what ever needed to get information, because I don’t trust everyone and someone might be just crazy and want to hurt for the fun of it and I know I could and would hurt but only to save lives.

Was that at all understandable?  It’s clear in my head but not sure it got in print the way I mean it.