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That is the line the President has put forth, but this line admits that intelligence was gathered from these techniques.  I think arguing about "maybe we could have done this in another way" is not really relevant. 




We do not do any of this to people who abide by the Geneva Conventions. 




Not in America?  We have firebombed cities, used nuclear weapons, openly targeted civilians, among numerous other things.  Perhaps not in your vision of America, but yes, we do these things in America. 




There is no evidence that the Bush Administration lied to Congress about enhanced interrogation techniques.  




"Trying"  being the key word.  Further, they have no jurisdiction anyway.  They can do whatever they want, it is legally irrelevant.  And I said it was in line with international standards because the international standard is that we get to decide how we treat them when they do not abide by the Geneva Conventions.  




It is not all that creative to read the text of the Conventions and clearly see that it states they are not POW's.  


 


I would look for those regulations (if they do come out) to be worded in a way that they can be avoided or nations putting in reservations to make these things non self-executing.  




If we abide by the Geneva Conventions (and we do) then they would be violating this Convention, and therefore in the wrong.  




We followed the Geneva Conventions.  If another country follows it, they will be treated as such.  





Adding "torture" to this statement is laughable.  No one is going to "nuke" us because we waterboarded someone.  


However you are on another issue on why a world with no nuclear weapons is idiotic.  During the Cold War we balanced the superior Soviet conventional power with nuclear weapons, we should expect other nations to do the same to our overwhelming conventional power now.


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