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That's the old the ends justify the means... as long as it's us doing it defense. 


So to be consistent you are encouraging all other forces to torture our troops using your standard. I'm against that.


John McCain himself said it's wrong and everybody that's volunteered to try it says it's definitely torture. 


It's simply wrong. Thankfully President Obama has reversed the Bush/Cheney practice. 




Really!!!!!!!!!


OK tell me when to stop by an I'll hold your head under water and water suffocate you. Then we'll discuss the pain in realistic terms.


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