What it would cost me. What would it cost you?

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So I checked out the gov health care page today.

If I got health insurance through the exchange the plan that would be most appropriate for my family and most like what I have is the Humana connect platinum 1000/1500 ppo. I would qualify for about $117 dollars per year in a "rebate" which would go directly to Humana right away. The policy would cost over $900 dollars per month which about $100 dollars more per month than I am paying now. (Yes my wife and I decided that she would become a part time worker to give her a chance to pursue another career but for the time being we now have to pay for our insurance) So much for the rebate.

Additionally, I would have a huge deductible which could be as high as $3000 per year and given that my daughter has type one diabetes we would pay that deductible every year. Presently I have zero deductible. I would pay more at doctors offices, more at specialists, more at emergency rooms, basically more at every turn. Many of those costs would not be copays but would be 20% of costs and that could be huge. Presently my plan covers all prescriptions (which for us is huge) except that sometimes we pay a $3 copay. On the new plan I do not know how much we would pay for prescriptions. Wanna bet it would be a lot?

Additionally, I am not clear that I would even get that measly rebate since the language on the website says it is for people who get their insurance through the exchange and I have bought mine privately. Furthermore, I have learned that these checklists that show you what is covered and what is not covered by a plan are often misleading so that once you spend a few hours on the phone you discover that for one reason or another the treatment you wanted might not be part of what is covered or at least not fully.

I don't need to look any closer to know that one of these plans would costs us a whole lot more than presently. And we are one of the families that the plan was intended to help. A young healthy person would pay much more.

Then there is the whole issue of which doctors would accept me as a new patient. Would I find, like Medaid recipients, that few doctors would like me as a new patient and that those who did would be subpar?

So what about you? How do these plans compare for you?
 
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Oh .... but the polls claim everyone is for Obamacare now .....

Propagandist BS ... and the liberal idiots that believe it ... Go Figure!

Dr. Who ...

Everyone I know who has tried to sign up for the unAffordable Care Act are all saying the same thing. Even the ones that do get subsidies are still going to end up paying more than they are already paying for their existing plan which will soon be obsolete under the ACA. And, that is just for Obama's Bronze plan which really doesn't cover anything!
 
I just read an article where Oregon had 56,000 sign up. The only problem, is that they were low income and all were sent over to Medicade....so as it turns out, not one person signed up for the Obamacare exchanges.
 
I just read an article where Oregon had 56,000 sign up. The only problem, is that they were low income and all were sent over to Medicade....so as it turns out, not one person signed up for the Obamacare exchanges.

how is it that 56,000 people who want insurance are not already on medicaid? Will they be accepted by medicaid or are they not eligible?
 
how is it that 56,000 people who want insurance are not already on medicaid? Will they be accepted by medicaid or are they not eligible?
That is a state by state basis ...

Some states elected to expand medicaid .... covering these individuals. Other states chose not to expand medicaid leaving many of the low income folks without any options.

The Federal Government has no business mandating and regulating health insurance. This is only one of many reasons why!
 
how is it that 56,000 people who want insurance are not already on medicaid? Will they be accepted by medicaid or are they not eligible?
They only just became eligible under expanded medicaid (Oregon must have agreed to expand it not all states did).
 
how is it that 56,000 people who want insurance are not already on medicaid? Will they be accepted by medicaid or are they not eligible?

One of the arguments against Obamacare was that out of the so called 30 million uninsured there were basically only about 12 million who did not qualify for Medicaid. But that 12 million isn't going to go away, as there were that many who could afford insurance, but chose not to take it.

I don't see Obamacare as doing anything to change those numbers. Infact, the opposite is true. There are going to be a lot of people forced into Obamacare who can't afford it and will take the penalty over having insurance. Basically all they've done is shuffled the deck chairs. Remember too, that businesses have been given a year off from having to comply with this law. Once their part kicks in, things can only get worse.

We're also going to see where more insurance companies involved now will go belly up over the new regulations. Hospitals too. They won't be able to operate and watch the government step in to take control of them.
 
One of the arguments against Obamacare was that out of the so called 30 million uninsured there were basically only about 12 million who did not qualify for Medicaid. But that 12 million isn't going to go away, as there were that many who could afford insurance, but chose not to take it.

I don't see Obamacare as doing anything to change those numbers. Infact, the opposite is true. There are going to be a lot of people forced into Obamacare who can't afford it and will take the penalty over having insurance. Basically all they've done is shuffled the deck chairs. Remember too, that businesses have been given a year off from having to comply with this law. Once their part kicks in, things can only get worse.

We're also going to see where more insurance companies involved now will go belly up over the new regulations. Hospitals too. They won't be able to operate and watch the government step in to take control of them.

(bold added) That is the intent of writing such a poor law right? Every 'fix' will be a new government control.
 
I posted in another thread -- I've gotten my letter that my plan will be canceled at the end of the year. I've been trying to see what my new costs will be through the exchange, but it has yet to work....so who knows.
 
I posted in another thread -- I've gotten my letter that my plan will be canceled at the end of the year. I've been trying to see what my new costs will be through the exchange, but it has yet to work....so who knows.
Sorry about that Rob ....

Obama clearly lied about folks being able to keep their individual policies. Those policies will not meet Federal guidelines and therefore will be cancelled accordingly .... just what you are experiencing.

I am sure your "new" policy will be much more expensive and not near as good as your previous one.
 
I posted in another thread -- I've gotten my letter that my plan will be canceled at the end of the year. I've been trying to see what my new costs will be through the exchange, but it has yet to work....so who knows.

Sorry to hear that. I just heard on the news that 300,000 people in Florida got notices that they are being cancelled too.
 
Sorry to hear that. I just heard on the news that 300,000 people in Florida got notices that they are being cancelled too.
Thousands get health insurance cancellation notices including Florida Blue who is terminating about 300,000 policies, about 80 percent of its individual policies in the state.

Remarks by Sharon Glass: Well, Florida is now in the spotlight as a victim of the blunders and lies from the ObamaCare Law. This article declares that over 300,000 people will lose their insurance with Florida Blue because it does not meet what ObamaCare requires for coverage. Do you remember President Obama saying you could keep your insurance plan, watch this if you need reminding of his promise. This is why the legislators were trying to stop this law from being implemented, because they knew he was not telling the truth, so now Floridians will see it hit home when they get their cancellation notice in the mail. Read article here, by the way this article was put out by NBC, so they can’t call it FOX News propaganda!
 
Sorry about that Rob ....

Obama clearly lied about folks being able to keep their individual policies. Those policies will not meet Federal guidelines and therefore will be cancelled accordingly .... just what you are experiencing.

I am sure your "new" policy will be much more expensive and not near as good as your previous one.

Sorry you got canceled.

In the spirit of helping - does your insurance carrier offer another plan that would work for you? And just why did the letter say you were canceled? Have you considered using an insurance broker instead of the gov website? After all the site is really nothing more than an automated broker.
 
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Sorry you got canceled.

In the spirit of helping - does your insurance carrier offer another plan that would work for you? And just why did the letter say you were canceled? Have you considered using an insurance broker instead of the gov website? After all the site is really nothing more than an automated broker.

I have (until the end of the year at least) a personal plan through Blue Cross Blue Shield of Texas. The letter stated that under the Affordable Care Act they will no longer be offering the current plan that I am on. I had a $1,000 deductible, a $20 copay, and it was an 80/20 split. I am young and almost never go to the doctor so it was great for me, and cheap. My wife has insurance through her job.

They stated they could put me on a new plan, which would be much more expensive, or I would probably be better off on the exchange. I won't get any subsidy, and Blue Cross estimated to me (based on what I don't know) that I could expect my deductible to go up to at least $3,000 or $4,000 -- at which point im paying for a plan that essentially has no benefit to me unless something major happens.
 
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