Pidgey posted it
If we are not there to win then we need to get the frak out.
It would be one thing to say we are not out for victory if we were part of some UN peace keeping mission, but we are not.
Our guys are dying, the plan is up in the air and obama hasnt the time to make new plans anytime soon. the only thing we know is that he does not want victory.
Who the hell ever heard of a war where you didnt want victory?
What ever goals he sets he should want victory in those goals and who would want to fight for those goals knowing the one who set the goals doesnt really care or want to be able to have victory in them.
actually why is he not going through with the first plan? He picked this general by hand, he approved the plan. Now he is changing his mind on the plan, still unsure of the new plan ... all the while our guys are out there fighting, dying and waiting for a new plan or some kind of back up.
I am not big on the war topic, but this is just stupid!
I will back obama and what he does if he decides to fight, then fight to win, if he wants to call it done and bring everyone home then fine do it but dont just leave them hanging with all these mixed signals.