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I never said it was going to be a perfect system...but what the US has had for many years is having some of the same issues...while having many people who can't even get coverage at all...You don't think nursing homes are closing here? You dont think we are cutting back services? And Yes, if you actually let everyone get health care, some things will be more limited or take longer...More people needing the service that can get it now...and no increase in people who can do it, will always lead to that...the issue should not be, well let less people get help...it should be, get more people to help.


And as for if it was a free market before Obama...No, and its not now, and its not going to be...There is a reason so far as I know, no nation on earth has a 100% free market health care system...it would fail and everyone knows it. Free markets sell potato chips and cars...not kidney transplants.


And also, odd thing...since obama  care passed....I can still go see any Dr my insurance lets me, just like before...only now my insurance company cant just drop me because I get sick, or deny me coverage if I lost my job and needed a new plan later but got sick first...And if I lost my job, a better safty net to get some coverage while I try to find a new job.


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