Why the Republican party's dying

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Well, it seems that the GOP is finally coming into its own.


Both its numbers and its rhetoric, reflect that it’s rapidly becoming more of a cult than a political party. Recent polls indicate that now only 20% of the American people will even admit to being Republican these days. That’s down from 32% in November. If the current rate of decline continues, after the 2010 election there won’t be enough Republicans left in Washington to throw a card party - and that’s with good reason.


http://blackstarnews.com/news/135/ARTICLE/6073/2009-10-26.html
 
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But if the Republican party can take a real hard look at that 'TRUTH METER' and do some serious internal auditing of their worst extremes and 'MUZZLE' the ILK of the: Sara Palin's/Rush Limbaugh's/Glen Becks...there may be HOPE FOR CHANGE within that fractured party of the lost & bewildered RINO's that can't seem to view the history of their own party and learn from their mistakes/missteps & all around lazy ethics! IMO
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http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/05/us/politics/05repubs.html?_r=1&th&emc=th

Energized G.O.P. Looking to Avoid an Intraparty Feud
The victories, in races for governor, were cast by the party’s national chairman, Michael Steele, as a sign of a “Republican renaissance.” In New Jersey, Gov. Jon S. Corzine, a Democrat, was toppled by the Republican nominee, Christopher J. Christie. In Virginia, Robert F. McDonnell, the Republican, defeated his Democratic opponent, R. Creigh Deeds.
Republicans said the victories showed that President Obama and his party were vulnerable on the economy, government spending and other issues.
Yet throughout the day Wednesday, Republicans grappled with the disappointing outcome of a special election for what had been a reliably Republican House seat in upstate New York. That contest became a battleground between the party establishment and a conservative insurgency demanding more ideological purity from candidates.
The race was won by a Democrat, Bill Owens, after the Republican nominee, Dede Scozzafava, a moderate, quit as conservative leaders and grass-roots organizations rallied around Douglas L. Hoffman, who ran on the Conservative Party line.
Despite Mr. Hoffman’s loss, many conservatives promised to press on with opposition to centrist Republican candidates. That vow intensified concerns among party leaders that the opportunities they see coming out of Tuesday’s results could be dimmed by intramural battles over whether to reach for the political center or do more to motivate the base on the party’s right.
“When our party is united, whether you run in a Northern state or a Southern state, our party can win,” said the House Republican whip, Representative Eric Cantor of Virginia. “But when you are divided, you can lose a seat that has been in the Republican column for quite a long time.”
The debate has been fueled by a somewhat inchoate populist anger that has taken hold among grass-roots conservatives, encouraged in part by political leaders like Sarah Palin, the party’s vice-presidential nominee last year, and commentators like Glenn Beck of Fox News. In that sense, the divisions within the party extend beyond the traditional strains between the shrinking ranks of Republican moderates and the social and economic conservatives who have dominated the party in recent years.
The situation is all the more complicated because, after the party’s defeats in 2008, it has no dominant leaders or cohesive establishment to bridge the divides and help articulate a positive agenda. In that vacuum, the conservative activists and party leaders were both jockeying for advantage on Wednesday.
Mr. Steele, the party chairman, said in an interview that the outcome in New Jersey and Virginia, where Mr. Christie and Mr. McDonnell had played down their conservative views on social issues, instead focusing on the economy, should go a long way toward relieving the divisions and showing the party how to win next year.
Gov. Tim Pawlenty of Minnesota, a potential 2012 presidential candidate who backed Mr. Hoffman in the New York race, told reporters in Iowa that he would not get involved in an intraparty battle again. He said the New York contest, as a special election, had been unusual in that the nominee had been chosen by party leaders rather than by primary.
Mike Huckabee, a former Arkansas governor who is also a possible 2012 contender, urged Republicans not to support third-party candidates, warning that doing so was a recipe for defeat. “There is potential danger if people believe the way to get the attention of Washington is through third-party candidates,” he said. “Typically what a third-party candidate does is ensure the election of the one you like the least.”
But Mr. Huckabee, eager not to alienate conservatives, made clear that he would support primary challenges to Republican candidates who he thought strayed from the party’s values. As one example, he said he was supporting a conservative challenger to Gov. Charlie Crist of Florida, who is seeking the nomination for a Senate seat in a primary that is shaping up as the next big showdown between Republicans.
Senator John Cornyn of Texas, chairman of the National Republican Senatorial Committee, told ABC News that the committee would not spend money on behalf of candidates it is supporting in contested Republican primaries, like Mr. Crist in Florida. Although the committee typically does not spend money in a primary, Republicans said Mr. Cornyn’s remark was intended to relieve some of the anger being directed at the party establishment.
Ms. Palin, who had endorsed Mr. Hoffman in the upstate New York race, indicated that she had not been dissuaded by his loss.
“To the tireless grass-roots patriots who worked so hard in that race and to future citizen-candidates like Doug,” she wrote on her Facebook page, “please remember Reagan’s words of encouragement after his defeat in 1976: the cause goes on.”
And Senator Jim DeMint, Republican of South Carolina, announced that he was endorsing Chuck DeVore, a conservative, in the California race for a Senate seat. Mr. DeVore is opposing Carly Fiorina, former chief executive of Hewlett-Packard, who was encouraged by party leaders to seek the nomination.
Other conservatives, too, were not deterred by the New York defeat. Marjorie Dannenfelser, president of the Susan B. Anthony List, a conservative organization that strongly supported Mr. Hoffman, said that conservative activists intended to play a role in Republican primary and general elections next year and that it was just as important to keep unacceptable politicians out of Congress as to help others win.
Chris Chocola, president of the Club for Growth, another conservative group that campaigned heavily on behalf of Mr. Hoffman, said the organization was now considering issuing endorsements in contested Senate and House Republican races in New Hampshire, Florida, Kentucky and California.
Former Speaker Newt Gingrich, who had endorsed the moderate Republican in the New York race, said the opportunity suggested by the results in New Jersey and Virginia should be an impetus to resolve tensions.
“I think the conservative movement and the Republican leadership can pretty rapidly come to an agreement that defeating Pelosi in 2010 and Obama in 2012 is worth sorting things out for,” Mr. Gingrich said.
Mr. Gingrich said that throughout history, political leaders had emerged to steer parties to power by reconciling competing factions. Asked which Republicans had the stature to do so now, he replied: “That will happen. Or it will not.”
Mr. Steele said he hoped that the party would be able to skirt further divisive battles.
“You know what the reality is?” he said. “This is healthy, in that it exposes fault lines that we can learn to avoid.”
 
Well, it seems that the GOP is finally coming into its own.


Both its numbers and its rhetoric, reflect that it’s rapidly becoming more of a cult than a political party. Recent polls indicate that now only 20% of the American people will even admit to being Republican these days. That’s down from 32% in November. If the current rate of decline continues, after the 2010 election there won’t be enough Republicans left in Washington to throw a card party - and that’s with good reason.


http://blackstarnews.com/news/135/ARTICLE/6073/2009-10-26.html

Like Republicant Lindsey Graham said recently. If we keep listening to the extremists in our Party we'll be a club not a Party.

Let's put that idea to song shall we...

 
Like Republicant Lindsey Graham said recently. If we keep listening to the extremists in our Party we'll be a club not a Party.

Let's put that idea to song shall we...


Big wins in VA and NJ. Both places that the DNC outspent the Republicans and President Obama visiting numerous times.

Historically, the out of power party always shows well in the midterms, and 2010 is shaping up to be no different.
 
Big wins in VA and NJ. Both places that the DNC outspent the Republicans and President Obama visiting numerous times.

Historically, the out of power party always shows well in the midterms, and 2010 is shaping up to be no different.

True...

but in New York's 23rd District a place that hasn't went Democrat since the 19th century... THE 19th CENTURY. When the choice went Conservative vs Democrat they lost.

This is a centrist nation thank god. Could the Dems lose a couple seats here and there in 2010... that's always possible. But at the end of the day they'll hold on and get through to 2012 and that's when President Obama comes fully into play again. It will once again be President Obama vs Rush Limbaugh & gang.

I'm very confident in our President and our country as a whole.


 
I just got a pressing message from Moveon.org needing money because they fear a Conservative Republican could take ted kennedys seat. But I thought the republican party was dead and or dying. so I didnt understand why the moveon people seemed in such a panic.

below is their email

Dear MoveOn member,

In 11 days, we could lose progressive hero Ted Kennedy's Senate seat—and with it, any hope for passing major progressive legislation this year.

A new poll Tuesday showed Democrat Martha Coakley's lead in the special election to succeed Kennedy is at the edge of the margin of error, and the non-partisan Cook Political Report now says it's very competitive.1 And today, some of the people behind the infamous Swift Boat and racist Willie Horton ads are spending $400,000 on a new attack ad. Republican Scott Brown and his extreme right-wing supporters are significantly outspending Coakley on TV.2

A Republican victory here would be a catastrophe—Democrats would lose their 60th vote in the Senate, health care could die, and the Republicans could block pretty much anything they want.

We can't let a right-winger take over Ted Kennedy's seat because not enough progressives are paying attention. Coakley urgently needs help before it's too late. Your contribution in the next 24 hours will help her expand her all-out campaign for victory. Can you contribute $5 to Coakley's campaign right away?

https://pol.moveon.org/give/coakley_martha.html?id=18516-9880755-DFn_P8x&t=3

Martha Coakley will carry on Ted Kennedy's progressive legacy. In endorsing Coakley, Vicki Kennedy, Ted Kennedy's wife, said, "My husband fought for healthcare reform for more than 40 years. Martha Coakley shares those critical beliefs." Coakley has also been outspoken against restrictions in the bill on women's right to choose.3

As Massachusetts Attorney General, Coakley was aggressive in challenging the Wall Street titans who helped bring on the financial crisis, and she recovered tens of millions of dollars for taxpayers and victims of Goldman Sachs, Merrill Lynch, and UBS for their deceptive activities.4 She'll be a strong fighter in Washington for tough regulations on the financial industry.

And Republican Scott Brown? He's a "free enterprise advocate"5 who thinks the system works just fine. But he's giving Coakley a serious challenge. He promised, "As the 41st senator I can stop a lot of this stuff in its tracks....I can actually force them to go back to the drawing board."6 And there are rumors that the Republican Party and the Club for Growth will also begin attack ads on Coakley soon.

And the race is further confused by the presence of a 3rd candidate, named Joe Kennedy, who isn't related to Ted Kennedy, but is a tea-party extremist. Martha Coakley needs our help to cut through the clutter and get her message out—on TV, at the doors, and on the phones.

At this moment, when Ted Kennedy's greatest goal in life is within reach, we cannot afford to let Republican extremists snatch away his legacy. Can you help with an urgent contribution of $5?

Thank you. Sincerely,

–Adam, Kat, Wes, Daniel, and the rest of the team
 
Well he is posting the same crap over and over. He
makes Shaman look good.:D


I'm sure the mods will tidy up. 2nd one today I believe.


Oh, and nobody wands to be a democrat either.

But ask who is conservative or liberal and its 40% Con and 22% lib, gains in COn coming from "independants".
 
Big wins in VA and NJ. Both places that the DNC outspent the Republicans and President Obama visiting numerous times.

Historically, the out of power party always shows well in the midterms, and 2010 is shaping up to be no different.

I don't know who spent more, but I know this, Republican funds dried up, and they are way behind now do to how much they did spend with little coming in for those races.
 
The Republicant Party has been splintered apart by the FAR FAR Right Wing.

They even are starting to turn against just plain FAR Right incumbents. They just recently went full out against the Florida GOP Chair that was so far to the Lunatic Right that he was known for railing against the Obama, "Kids need to stay in school & work hard speech" as a Socialist plot to take over the minds of our children...

THIS IS NOT FAR ENOUGH TO THE RIGHT ANYMORE!!!:eek:



This makes good political theater and it will splinter away a few already Republicans to a more radical position but in the long run when everyone is in play from Radical Right to Moderate Republicans to Socially Liberal Republicans to Independents to Democrats it's a looser move.

Hell this has been going on ever since President Obama won. And now they've even turned on the GOP Chair Michael Steele. it's good old fashion cannibalization of ones own Party.


 
I don't know who spent more, but I know this, Republican funds dried up, and they are way behind now do to how much they did spend with little coming in for those races.

Fund raising within the RNC has been slowing a bit, however polling shows Republicans looking very good in the 2010 elections.

If they are doing that with little cash, imagine what would happen if they had a ton.
 
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