Adolf Hitler

Enlighten me. What particulars do you have against Franco?

OswaldTheOsprey

Summary executions...rounding up of a dissidents and opponents as political prisoners...assassinations of opposition leaders...need I say more? He took martial law and paranoia to all new heights. He wasn't so unlike Stalin in that regard.
 
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Summary executions...rounding up of a dissidents and opponents as political prisoners...assassinations of opposition leaders...need I say more? He took martial law and paranoia to all new heights. He wasn't so unlike Stalin in that regard.

Most of the "opponents" were Stalinist loyalists. He also defied Hitler at critical junctures including saving Jews from the Holocaust. I do not say Franco was perfect-just much the lesser of evils.

OswaldTheOsprey
 
Most of the "opponents" were Stalinist loyalists. He also defied Hitler at critical junctures including saving Jews from the Holocaust. I do not say Franco was perfect-just much the lesser of evils.

He was most definitely the lesser of evils. That sure as hell doesn't make him a positive example of fascism though.
 
He was most definitely the lesser of evils. That sure as hell doesn't make him a positive example of fascism though.

Think of Franco as to Fascism as Tito to Communism. As to your original point, while it is true that Strasser lost out in 1932 and was killed in 1934, that does not mean that future Strassers are doomed to fail.

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He was talking about Franco, not Stalin.

OswaldTheOsprey

My mistake. It's hard for me to say for sure what my real assertion is about Adolf Hitler since there is such a wealth of knowledge to learn about the whole affair. I know more about WWII than most people and have formulated an opinion on Hitler and his twisted thinking and twisted agenda. Now, Hitler was not a complete monster in his entirety. He was indeed a monster and a tragic tragic 'gift' to Germany as well as Europe. Looking at his character itself, I'll break it into two different parts of him making two different ways of looking at him. By his actions and by his principles. Both of these are rarely identical with people who acquire such power as is the case with Adolf Hitler. Judging Hitler's principles before he set out to do what he had done, I'd say perhaps 40% were noble and 60% were twisted, evil, provoking to violence and destructive.

Nazism is basically a fascist perversion of paleoconservatism which for those who are not aware is the understood rational, normal, most popular Political ideology (Globally speaking). He believed Germany was the greatest nation in the world and believed Germany had the greatest people in the world he coined as 'The aryan Race'. I don't know if he really believed that but he principally loved his people and firstly strove to return Germany to its glorious prosperity and pride once again. Hitler also believed Germany should only be comprised of Lutherans. This is also a noble cause most politicians would not dare speak let alone act upon. A common religion (although a common denomination is most definitely fascist) is in a nation a good thing and benefits it in more ways than can be counted. He also believed Germany should reconquer older German Territories like Poland and Austria. Another noble principle and beneficial to the encompassing countries. He was also completely abhorrant of Communism. This is also a noble principle because communism is basically anti-civilization.

It was not noble of him to think because of his belief that Aryans were superior that they should rule Europe, if not the world. This was not the cause of invading France which was revenge but he practically declared war on the world. And like I said before, although it is good to have a country of one religion, why should all other religions be domestically and internationally killed? Hitler believed people of other races and religions did not have a right to live especially in his own governed provinces. This is not a noble principle and can only be looked at as EVIL. He decided not to kick them out but to kill them off. Hitler also did not like intellectuals which is understanable but the intellectuals pointed things out to him that they were right about which Hitler later admitted. Scientists argued that even if German WAS a pure Aryan race and you killed off all of the retards, queers, cripples, etc, you would still have them because it is nature's character. Hitler idea of the perfect utopian society in his image was impossible, Evil and doomed from the start. These are the irrational things that created Hitler into the MADMAN we know and hate him for.


Hitler had many good ideas about Economics, he further expanded Western art and design in Germany. He also invested much of the country's money in research and technological development, something the Germans had prided themselves with for hundreds and hundreds of years. His education system resembled that of Napoleon's which was militaristic but vigorous and demanding.

Anyhow, Hitler flung Germany into a war which by his provocative action will turn into a war Germany and its allies couldn't hope to win industrially. The scope of the war became larger and larger and the Axis couldn't compete. One of the reasons Hitler probably invaded russia was to capture its western industrial might which was a terrible mistake and inflicted heavy casualties on Germany.

But the three biggest things Hitler must be hated for was his extermination of peoples and his mindless abuse of the German people. The Germans endured misery of the likes they had ever seen and yet Hitler refused to surrender. His own people whom he thought to care about so much he continued throwing into the meat grinder and have them return in body bags. Germany was destroyed and so was its people. Some leader he was. The third thing is the Second World War has led to the actual destruction of Europe's culture, governments and people. Europe has been going downhill ever since and is only getting worse. Example: The Roosevelts were from Holland. Holland is now overrun by Muslims. Church attendance is ever more declining, social integrity and character are at an all time low and the largest mosque in Europe is in Rome. Their economies are also begining to waver under new asian and indian threats handicapped by their socialistic DOGMA. Because of Hitler, Europe is in shambles.
 
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