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Anti-drilling bastion surrenders

Discussion in 'U.S. Politics' started by Libsmasher, Aug 29, 2008.

  1. Libsmasher

    Libsmasher New Member

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    Santa Barbara, a resort community on the california coast, and probably the previous center of opposition to coastal drilling, has gone on record in favor of it now. The county supervisors voted to approve it.

    http://www.montereyherald.com/news/ci_10314557

    Bit by bit, economic reality seeps into the brains of the ecofascist dupes. :D
     
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    After the hurricane, those numbers will change back to anti-offshore when all the oil starts to wash ashore..

    Mark my words.

    Meanwhile some things to consider about offshore drilling off the West Coast:

    The oceans in the vast majority of areas where offshore would be implemented along the West Coast are very, very rough in the Winter time (swells up to 50' and high winds common during the many increasingly-violent storms there) and riddled with seismic faults that are long overdue for massive rupture and rig-wrecking potential. In several areas along the West Coast, earthquakes ranging from conservative values of 8 to even 9 magnitude are long overdue in their cyclic patterns. No oil rig could survive an 8, much less 9 earthquake. And surviving the yearly Winter mini-hurricane storms would be a constant gamble there.

    It's not so simple as you think, your offshore-drilling dreamland. And Californians specifically will lock elbows from San Diego to Crescent City to bar construction of offshore rigs. Sabatoge would also be a constant threat, especially in the Golden State.
     
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    Won't happen - mark my words. The main problem with Katrina was poorly sited and unprotected onshore facilities - this is just a stupid mistake - not an inherent impediment.

    I live 5 miles from the ocean in california, and you don't know what you're talking about. There is always a succession of winter storms, no worse than eg what there is in the north sea in europe during winter, and no platform there has ever failed. I disagree that they've been increasingly violent, and I live there. There is NOTHING to compare to Katrina - hurricanes don't come here. :rolleyes: There is the artic ocean current which cools the water along the west coast, not anything like the gulf of mexico which is warm. There has never been a >= 8.0 verified earthquake in california history - the worst one was the Fort Tejon earthquake (7.9) 151 years ago. There is no perfect energy production method, but that is the only kind ecofascists want. It is actually YOU who are in dreamland.
     
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    You are basing the argument for geothermal and anti-offshore drilling on the fact that maybe an earthquake will hit a platform?

    Pretty weak argument in my opinion.
     
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    Source: http://www.answers.com/topic/san-andreas-fault

    That "locked up" area is exactly just inshore from the Los Angeles and Santa Barbara areas. Due to the underlying structures of the geology in the area, the fault wants to move regularly, but this area binds it up. Because it does that, the areas accumulates a much larger potential energy for great magnitudes of rupture for when that area finally slips.

    And that, friends, is the area most rich in oil deposits for California...where they "want" to drill offshore (note: pockets can be padded to seem to reflect the majority of interest in an areas. But the reality is that the majority of citizenry in Los Angeles and indeed the whole State of CA is strongly Anti-offshore drilling. Challenge me and I'll post evidence of that in spades.) The billion dollar tourist industry would plummet to a pittance if LA's famous beaches were smeared with black filth from an oilspill. LA is an ugly eyesore as it is. Her beaches are her best feature. You're asking that town to commit fiscal suicide.

    So again, your simplistic hopeful model of offshore drilling on the West Coast is truly a fantasy. When you start talking about faults off Alaska's West Coast, the numbers get even more nasty..

    Oh well...:cool:
     
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    Libsmasher New Member

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    Gosh, thanks for explaining what everyone already knows. :rolleyes:

    Yawwwwn. Where to start. :rolleyes: the only valid thing you said is that LA is an eyesore - that's because it's flooded with illegal alien invaders, and is de facto part of mexico, thanks to liberals in places like the the northeast who don't know what's happening in the southwest. Your comment on the potential oil fields is glaring stupidity. The off shore oil fields would be FARRRRRRRR west of the san andreas fault - they're in the pacific plate. The people in this state have been inundated with ecofascist propaganda for 30 years. Take a valid, non-rigged poll >>NOW<< run by a reputable NEUTRAL source and see what folks have to say. The drilling restrictions off both florida and california were established largely due to the scare propaganda of wealthy coastal property owners and real estate interests. People also DRIVE A LOT in California - one way commutes of 40-50 miles are very typical. People are taking another look at the ecofascist scare tactics after spending $100 to fill their gas tanks.

    "Simplistic model"?? :D All you did is dump some boilerplate about the san andrea fault, and then ridiculously mislocate where "offshore" would be.

    Puh-leeeeeeeeese - stopping making a fool of yourself. :rolleyes:
     

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