GenSeneca
Well-Known Member
Does anyone else see the irony?Stopping the out of control growth of government and its debt may be possible, but it isn't going to be easy. It will have to be done, but insisting on a strict interpretation of the Constitution is never going to happen.
On the one hand, you say we need to stop governments out of control growth and resultant debt... On the other hand, you don't think government be should held to its Constitutional limits... limits which were specifically designed to prevent out of control growth of government and its resultant debt.
You are right, I do represent the interests of a small minority, the individual, the smallest of all minorities. And you are also wrong, the group of individuals who also support capitalism, limited government, minimal taxes, fiscal responsibility, respect for individual rights and adherence to the constitution, make up a very large portion of the population... and we are probably a majority here on the forum.I think you represent a pretty small minority, which nevertheless, has rights.
First, they aren't just "my" rights, they are individual rights, rights that belong to every individual, rights which our government was specifically created to protect. The best way to protect our individual rights is by eliminating laws that violate them.... and there are a lot of them.How do you think your rights could be protected?
The FDIC went from a surplus to a 4 trillion dollar deficit in order to secure those funds and prevent a run on the banks. You think that's pragmatic. Ergo, you think the FDIC deficit is pragmatic so long as it stopped a run on the banks.Stopping a run on the banks is pretty pragmatic, don't you think?
Who's exaggerating? We have 12 trillion due right now, there's another 92 trillion or so in unfunded debt obligations, the first of which will be coming due starting around 2010/2012.The actual 12 or so trillion we have is bad enough without exaggeration,
You talked about our debt being like a Mastercard... that's a good analogy. We rack up debt and we have to make payments immediately. Currently, we are making interest only payments while continuing to rack up debt.
Now you've likely heard about "buy now pay later" financing, where you can buy something on credit, with no money down, and no payments and no interest for a year. Well, that's a good analogy for our unfunded debt obligations.
When those bills start coming in, it will dwarf the 12 trillion we currently owe, the same 12 trillion that we have to make interest only payments on because we can't afford to pay down the principle.
First off, you were the one saying I must want people dying in the streets because I want to end the welfare state. Then you stated, "Let's stop using the funds for welfare for people who haven't paid in." Which is why I made my comment about you now wanting people to die in the streets... what are they going to do when you cut off their welfare?Do you think that stopping spending of SS funds for welfare is going to result in people dying in the streets?
Then we're all screwed, current and future generations alike. There will likely be a revolution that may, or may not, be preceded by another civil war.If so, what do you think will happen when, as you say, SS inevitably fails?
The longer we wait, the greater the pain.Maybe if we reform it now, we can avoid people starving.
There's no reason to believe government will "fix" the problem of skyrocketing healthcare.There is no reason to believe that.
We need tax cuts, not higher taxes. Higher taxes will only serve to stifle economic activity. As for budget cuts... Everyone thinks their cow is sacred and above cuts. We have a tough road ahead.I'm afraid you're right about that, unless we address the situation now. It is going to require higher taxes and budget cuts, neither of which is going to be popular.