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Extra pounds mean insurance fees for Ala. workers

Discussion in 'Health' started by The Scotsman, Aug 26, 2008.

  1. The Scotsman

    The Scotsman Well-Known Member

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    Well since its tax payers paying their health care then sounds fair enough..........
     
  2. GenSeneca

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    Can't you people who advocate "National Healthcare" see the writing on the wall here?

    Hello Healthcare... Goodbye freedom of choice.
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  3. Shadow

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    How does good health care for everyone interfere with freedom of choice.???? Which "freedom" is being curtailed?? Seems that those that object to health care......can always refuse it.


    More important, what are some so afraid of?? Heck, they are losing their freedoms in the name of "security" and don't mind that at all. How is security more important than one's health?? If some one is ill , he could care less about "security"......... and justs wants the best health care available in order to regain their healthy status.


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    actually , it makes sense that those with weight issues should pay more insurance. They are hi risk. It might , although unlikely, offer incentive for weight loss .
     
  4. GenSeneca

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    You mean like other "Sin Taxes"?

    People shouldn't smoke so we levy heavy taxes against tobacco products and the companies that produce those goods.

    I thought Socialists only wanted to raise taxes on the rich... Taxes like those on Alcohol, Tobacco and now "being heavy" hit the poor first and the hardest.

    Socialists hate the idea of a flat tax that impacts everyone, rich to poor, equally - saying the (e.g.10)% the poor have to pay is not fair because they earn so little and its a disproportionate burden...

    Yet those same people are willing to abandon that argument when they have the ability to use taxes to change behavior and are more than happy to raise taxes on goods that primarily impact the poor.

    The idea being, make the taxation (without representation) exorbitant enough and ONLY the rich can afford to act irresponsibly. This is how Socialist ALWAYS try to engage in Social Engineering within a Capitalist society. Taxation has become their preferred method for answering the question of how best to impose "personal responsibility", rather than letting people have the freedom to choose how best to live their life.

    What if the Right used this tactic of taxing behavior they disapprove of.... What if they had their very own Sin Tax.... What does everyone think about a tax on Abortions? We could also throw on a Windfall Profits Tax on the industry itself - "Big Abortion" - since they shouldn't be making a profit for performing these vital services, over a million times a year.

    I bet the Left would scream bloody murder and complain about how the Right was imposing its will on others through taxation... I bet they'd say it was unconstitutional... I bet they would yell the loudest about how its a violation of their civil rights and a direct attack on their freedom of choice. Fat people, smokers, drinkers, the poor etc. get the Leftist "Double - Standard - Penetration" move put on them because the Left doesn't see the purpose in letting these people have freedom of choice - they make the wrong choices in the eyes of the left, so its ok to tax those "Sinners".
     
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    Well said.
     
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    Do not stop at overweight. If they have a pre-existing condition they should pay more or not be covered at all. Why should I have to pay more for insurance because some of my co-workers are genetically weak? Heart mummers (bad valves), diabetes, heat disease, Huntington's Corea, High Blood pressure, carrying the breast cancer gene, recovering alcoholics, Should be no coverage for child birth (they decides to have a baby, not me), Lew Gehrig's disease, etc., etc.
     
  7. Pandora

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    people are so dumb they want "free" health care. Nothing is free, even freedom is not free. There is always a price. The price for the "free" healthcare is your FREEDOM.
     
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    People have to realize that even insurance has its limits to how much expenses it can absorb. Sooner or later, those limits will be exceeded and people who abuse those limits will have to be denied treatment and DIE. DAHermit is solidly on-target, in that respect.

    Let's make it possible for them to die cheaply, quickly, and painlessly, insomuch as feasible, within those same cost limits.

    Personally, I love French food and wine, and rich food. I am unwilling to give those enjoyable things up for a few paltry and meaningless years of frail old age. I have no problems with being denied coverage. Just allow me to die as cheaply, quickly, and painlessly as possible, when that time comes. Hospices do quite well at that sort of thing.

    Meanwhile, other people have other preferences and make other choices from my preferences. Let's enable those choices for as many people as possible. Let's not let anyone go without some sort of health insurance.
     
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