Harry Reid says Reconcilliation for Healthcare is OK.

[asur]

2/23/2010

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) began to make the case on Tuesday for using a majority-vote process to move the final piece of health care reform through the Senate and he slammed the procedure's GOP critics. Known as budget reconciliation, the maneuver requires 51 votes and can't be filibustered.

The GOP has been demanding that Democrats take reconciliation off the table in advance of a bipartisan health care summit on Thursday.

"I would recommend they go back and look at history. Since 1981, reconciliation has been used 21 times," Reid told reporters after the weekly lunch with his Democratic caucus.

It doesn't matter what the people want.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/23/reid-gop-should-stop-cryi_n_473572.html
Reconciliation gives Democrats a method to jam Healthcare through.

 

[Gipper]

Dingy Harry said today that no one mentioned using reconciliation to slam through Obamacare. Yet, he said it just a few days ago. The guy is the biggest F-ing liar or maybe he is high on drug or just plain delusion.

 

[pocketfullofshells]

2/23/2010

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) began to make the case on Tuesday for using a majority-vote process to move the final piece of health care reform through the Senate and he slammed the procedure's GOP critics. Known as budget reconciliation, the maneuver requires 51 votes and can't be filibustered.

The GOP has been demanding that Democrats take reconciliation off the table in advance of a bipartisan health care summit on Thursday.

"I would recommend they go back and look at history. Since 1981, reconciliation has been used 21 times," Reid told reporters after the weekly lunch with his Democratic caucus.

It doesn't matter what the people want.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/23/reid-gop-should-stop-cryi_n_473572.html
Reconciliation gives Democrats a method to jam Healthcare through.

the people do want, thats why they have 59 votes, and you have 41

59>41

 

[Diamond]

the people do want, thats why they have 59 votes, and you have 41

59>41

That figure is an old story compared to todays reality.

PLC1 presented something very interesting in another thread: https://www.houseofpolitics.com/forum/showthread.php?p=134097#post134097

 

[Gipper]

the people do want, thats why they have 59 votes, and you have 41

59>41

Well then what's the problem?

Why don't we have that shi*ty Obamacare and all the other sh*t BO is pushing?

 

[citizenzen]

It doesn't matter what the people want.

Reconciliation gives Democrats a method to jam Healthcare through.

So do you consider the times that Republicans used reconciliation as likewise disregarding the will of the people and "jamming" legislation through, or does your description only apply to times when it is employed by Democrats?

 

[Devil505]

2/23/2010


It doesn't matter what the people want.

The GOP doesn't speak for "The People" anymore...They speak for the insurance industry.

 

[pocketfullofshells]

Well then what's the problem?

Why don't we have that shi*ty Obamacare and all the other sh*t BO is pushing?

beucse republicans will not let a strait up vote on it, because they have no real ideas. Its better to just say no, then have to defend actul ideas that don't fix anything

 

[Gipper]

beucse republicans will not let a strait up vote on it, because they have no real ideas. Its better to just say no, then have to defend actul ideas that don't fix anything

Wrong again.

You are promoting the liberal talking points your friends in the MSM keep saying. A word of advice, never believe what the lib media tells you. This will get you far grasshopper.

The Rs have presented many ideas all of which were ignored by the Dems and the MSM. And, then they claimed the Rs have no ideas and are the party of NO. And, the useful idiots dutifully believed.

And, using reconciliation to take control of 17% of the economy is F-ing radical. The Rs used reconciliation, but not for something that would transform our nation into a sickly socialist sh*thole.

 

[Devil505]

Wrong again.


The Rs used reconciliation, but not for something that would transform our nation into a sickly socialist sh*thole.

Translation: Of course the GOP has used Reconciliation.....but it was for things I agreed with & therefore it's OK. (Reconciliation can only be used for things I agree with)

 

[Mr. Shaman]

Dingy Harry said today that no one mentioned using reconciliation to slam through Obamacare. Yet, he said it just a few days ago. The guy is the biggest F-ing liar or maybe he is high on drug or just plain delusion.

...Or, possibly....a REPUBLICAN, at-heart??????

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"In his Wall Street Journal column, Karl Rove attacked the idea of using the budget reconciliation process to pass health care reform with a simple majority of Senate votes, referring to the procedure as a "parliamentary trick." But as a senior adviser in the Bush White House, Rove supported the use of reconciliation to pass major Bush administration initiatives."

 

[Mr. Shaman]

Well then what's the problem?

Why don't we have that shi*ty Obamacare and all the other sh*t BO is pushing?

Because you "conservatives" are spending too-much-time trying to justify LYNCHING him???



(Yeah.....people are actually noticing....as subtle as your efforts might be...)

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[Mr. Shaman]

Wrong again.

You are promoting the liberal talking points your friends in the MSM keep saying.

Gee....let's try to imagine what THAT'S like....


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[OldTrapper]

Translation: Of course the GOP has used Reconciliation.....but it was for things I agreed with & therefore it's OK. (Reconciliation can only be used for things I agree with)

Translation: I don't care what the left wing loonies do. I will support them in all of their hypocricy even if they lie about it.

President Barack Obama: “And what I worry about would be you essentially still have two chambers – the House and the Senate – but you have simply majoritarian, absolute power on either side. And that’s just not what the Founders intended.” (April 25, 2005)

Vice President Joe Biden: “This nuclear option is ultimately an example of the arrogance of power. It is a fundamental power grab….I pray God when the Democrats take back control we don’t make the kind of naked power grab you are doing.” (May 23, 2005)

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid: “The right to extended debate is never more important than when one party controls Congress and the White House. In these cases a filibuster serves as a check on power and preserves our limited government.” (May 18, 2005)

Senator Dianne Feinstein: “The Senate becomes ipso facto the House of Representatives, where the majority rules supreme and the party in power can dominate, and control the agenda with absolute power.” (May 15, 2005)

http://www.gop.gov/conference-call/10/02/24/democrats-who-once-opposed-the

 

[Devil505]

Translation: I don't care what the left wing loonies do. I will support them in all of their hypocricy even if they lie about it.

Not true. I have many things I disagree with Obama about & have said so. (I'm new here but I can provide links to other forums if you like)
1. We should pull out of Afghanistan immediately.
2. Get rid of Geithner
3. Stop trying for bi-partisanship (it looks like weakness)
4. Try Bush admin. personnel for firing US Attys, "Outing" a covert CIA agent in time of war & for implementing torture


Plenty of things I disagree with but........non-Republicans are allowed to disagree with party leaders....Republicans are not.