Inflation!!!

dahermit

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No one seems to notice, or at least are not discussing it, but inflation seems to running rampant. My LP provider is trying to up my payments by about $50 a month from last year. My electric company says that it anticipates higher fuel costs, raised my monthly payments about $50. My car insurance wants about $10 a month more. My house insurance wants $10 more.
Gasoline costs about the same as it did last year, most electricity is produced by coal, not oil, so it seems that something is not right.
Even if the inflationary changes were caused by the price of oil, there is no indication (the current spill not withstanding), that oil prices will be that high this winter over last winter.
What the hell is going on? Just more big unregulated business greed?
 
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No one seems to notice, or at least are not discussing it, but inflation seems to running rampant. My LP provider is trying to up my payments by about $50 a month from last year. My electric company says that it anticipates higher fuel costs, raised my monthly payments about $50. My car insurance wants about $10 a month more. My house insurance wants $10 more.
Gasoline costs about the same as it did last year, most electricity is produced by coal, not oil, so it seems that something is not right.
Even if the inflationary changes were caused by the price of oil, there is no indication (the current spill not withstanding), that oil prices will be that high this winter over last winter.
What the hell is going on? Just more big unregulated business greed?

How much (in terms of %) are those increases above your overall bill?

Perhaps the cost of doing business is just going up..maybe those companies now have to pay for healthcare etc...

Cost increases do not equate to "unregulated business greed" automatically.
 
Cost increases do not equate to "unregulated business greed" automatically.

Oh yes they do...,

but only in the minds of libs. Government regulations and taxes are killing jobs and economic growth, but to the lib it is never enough.

They fail to understand that the huge growth of government the past two decades and particularly since BO ascended has consequences which will be costly for us all and not only in our check books but also in lost liberties.
 
Well, a lot of costs were subsidized by returns on investments by big companies. In case you haven't noticed, returns on investments haven't been doing so hot lately, which means that you, dear consumer, will ultimately be footing more of the bill. We're pretty much at Peak Coal, by the way... we've already picked the low-hanging fruit. That means it gets exponentially more costly to get what's left even if it's abundant.

And you HAVE noticed that packaging sizes have decreased for a lot of foods, right? That's a way to hit you with cost increases without you noticing that they've been doing it. If you factor in the losses in real estate values, you're still at a somewhat level CPI so why are you complaining--it's just hedonics regression at work!
 
Foolish me! Here I was attributing it to some CEO wanting to make even more than the 2000 times more than his employee's.
 
Foolish me! Here I was attributing it to some CEO wanting to make even more than the 2000 times more than his employee's.


One of the issues I have tried to address with those who claim to be Conservative "capitalists" is the growing disparity betweem the working class, and the corporate class. Of course they seem to feel that "profit" is the driving force of any capitalist society ignoring the warnings of Jefferson, Franklin, Madison, and the teachings of Adam Smith, in regards to the corporate State.

At the zenith of the American economy, the 50's to the 70's, a man coukld earn enough at his job to provide for his family without government assistance, and even buy a home. At that same time the CEO of a company received 20 to 30 times what the average worker received.

Today we have 40 million people requiring food stamps, and millions are losing their homes. And while the wages of the worker are stagnant, or declining, the CEO now receives some 200 to 300 times the salary of the average worker.

Not all of this is due to government intrusion, nor is it due to union influence. Much of it is due to the rise of corporatism, and the collusion between big business, and government, that eliminates any competition for that big business much like the big oil companies destroyed their competitors through the elimination of the smaller company to build, or expand, their refineries, and thus the larger oil companies control that sector of production.

It would appear that we are returning to the "fuedal" system that existed in America in the late 1800's, and early 1900's.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neofeudalism

"Feudal systems in antique societies usually had the common feature of being ruled by an extremely wealthy and powerful upper class (nobles and aristocrats) with nearly complete legal power over the lives and well-being of the impoverished lower classes of laborers, craftsmen, service professionals, farmer workers, and bond-servants (individuals with debts so excessive that their only legal options were debtor's prison, life as homeless "outlaws," or service to the upper class as serfs or houseservants). The feudal upper classes were not subject to the same set of laws as the lower classes. Thus one of the basic criteria for categorizing a society feudalistic or neofeudalistic might be simply that its laws and customs are designed to best serve the landed and wealthy while offering substantially lesser legal protections to the landless and working classes and those in debt. Such a system need not evolve out of any deliberate desire to oppress the working classes but rather may arise simply through a process of gradually changing the legal systems of a country to best serve the common interests of the upper classes (i.e. less taxation on unearned incomes and interest, more privileges for the wealthy than for the working class or landless, lighter penalties for committing "white collar" crimes, right to purchase expensive exemptions from wartime drafts, etc.). Recognition of similarities between such ancient social systems and a given current society is the condition most likely to lead to accusations of neofeudalism, regardless of the ongoing controversy over what actually constitutes neofeudalism"
 
...The feudal upper classes were not subject to the same set of laws as the lower classes. Thus one of the basic criteria for categorizing a society feudalistic or neofeudalistic might be simply that its laws and customs are designed to best serve the landed and wealthy while offering substantially lesser legal protections to the landless and working classes...
That cannot be true...If it were, the wealthy would have different prisons than the "common", law breaker. :rolleyes:
 
One of the issues I have tried to address with those who claim to be Conservative "capitalists" is the growing disparity betweem the working class, and the corporate class. Of course they seem to feel that "profit" is the driving force of any capitalist society ignoring the warnings of Jefferson, Franklin, Madison, and the teachings of Adam Smith, in regards to the corporate State.

At the zenith of the American economy, the 50's to the 70's, a man coukld earn enough at his job to provide for his family without government assistance, and even buy a home. At that same time the CEO of a company received 20 to 30 times what the average worker received.

Today we have 40 million people requiring food stamps, and millions are losing their homes. And while the wages of the worker are stagnant, or declining, the CEO now receives some 200 to 300 times the salary of the average worker.

Not all of this is due to government intrusion, nor is it due to union influence. Much of it is due to the rise of corporatism, and the collusion between big business, and government, that eliminates any competition for that big business much like the big oil companies destroyed their competitors through the elimination of the smaller company to build, or expand, their refineries, and thus the larger oil companies control that sector of production.

It would appear that we are returning to the "fuedal" system that existed in America in the late 1800's, and early 1900's.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neofeudalism

"Feudal systems in antique societies usually had the common feature of being ruled by an extremely wealthy and powerful upper class (nobles and aristocrats) with nearly complete legal power over the lives and well-being of the impoverished lower classes of laborers, craftsmen, service professionals, farmer workers, and bond-servants (individuals with debts so excessive that their only legal options were debtor's prison, life as homeless "outlaws," or service to the upper class as serfs or houseservants). The feudal upper classes were not subject to the same set of laws as the lower classes. Thus one of the basic criteria for categorizing a society feudalistic or neofeudalistic might be simply that its laws and customs are designed to best serve the landed and wealthy while offering substantially lesser legal protections to the landless and working classes and those in debt. Such a system need not evolve out of any deliberate desire to oppress the working classes but rather may arise simply through a process of gradually changing the legal systems of a country to best serve the common interests of the upper classes (i.e. less taxation on unearned incomes and interest, more privileges for the wealthy than for the working class or landless, lighter penalties for committing "white collar" crimes, right to purchase expensive exemptions from wartime drafts, etc.). Recognition of similarities between such ancient social systems and a given current society is the condition most likely to lead to accusations of neofeudalism, regardless of the ongoing controversy over what actually constitutes neofeudalism"

I can agree with much of your post. However much of the current problems in the poor class is the consequence of out of control liberalism.

I do not think we are a feudal society. More like a combination of fascism, socialism, and just a tiny drop of capitalism and a weakened constitutional republic as a crumbling foundation.

The Founders did warn about corporations and those warnings have not been heeded. The huge growth of government has been accompanied by the huge growth of corporations many of whom make huge profits from the government. The two along with MSM have colluded to take control of our system and enrich themselves.

A return to the constitutional republic our Founders planned and intended would alleviate these problems.
 

My heating gas (Liquid Propane) budget payments (averaged), and electricity budget payments both left a significant positive balance (more than one month's payment),at the end of the year. Therefore, they is no logical financial reason that my payments would have to be increased inasmuch as they were over-payed as it was. Now, you can post the rate of inflation all you want, but it does not alter that fact, nor will the formula used will reduce the payments.

Another possible reason for the increased comes to mind; Perhaps the companies have realized that the excess payments can be a source of interest when deposited.
 
I can agree with much of your post. However much of the current problems in the poor class is the consequence of out of control liberalism.

Or a lack of Conservative values. Corporations have 2 trillion dollars in capitals assets they are not using, and the banks have another 2 trillion dollars they won't invest. Corporations have stifled small business growth, and continue to clamor for more cheap labor from over seas on the HB1, HV1, and L1 visas. And most of those are obtained through fraud.
 
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Did not read Trapper's posts?

Yes.. the post that came after your comment that I responded to? I did read it...

However, you in no way (nor did he) make any clear case that your rising costs are in any way related to that argument.
 
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