It is YOU who said way back in the election campaign that if Obama won YOU were all ready to attack him because you felt Bush was unfairly attacked.
I also pointed out, on more than one occasion, that it was tongue in cheek, my way of making fun of people like you who suffered from Bush Derangement Syndrome for 8 years. You attack Bush for the Patriot Act, but you give Clinton a pass for doing the same things secretly. You attack Bush as a liar on Iraq, but give Clinton a pass for saying the same things both before and after Bush took office.
Also... You cite things like the Clinton Impeachment and the Swiftboating of Kerry as excuses for attacking Bush, Republicans, Conservatives, Libertarians and anyone else who DARES disagree with you... While trying to call me out for threatening to shovel that dung right back in your face. Two wrongs have never made a right, that's why I didn't go through with it. You on the other hand, had 8 glorious years of answering one wrong after another with your very own wrongs.
The list goes on and on... Your double standards are nothing more than political grandstanding. If you held both parties to the same impossible standard you hold the Republicans to, we'd get along much better and the nation would actually stand a chance to "come together" for the good of America.
I do see the debt as a problem. I'd like to see us get back to the economic conditions under President Clinton. And as we all know the Clinton administration was big on reducing debt.
Yet you can't bring yourself to credit the Republican takeover of the House for crafting welfare reform and instead choose to credit Clinton for signing it. I'm not a partisan hack, I'll give them both credit for working together in order to take 52% of recipients off the welfare rolls. This, by the way, should be an example of how we, as a nation, are actually capable of reducing our biggest debt obligations.
When I mention that we need to do this for Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid and revisit welfare... You call me names and cast dispersions on my character for "not caring" about the poor and disadvantaged, you use ridiculous hyperbole about how I want fellow Americans dying in the streets and starving to death because I care more about "fat cats" than people like myself.
Had we kept the Clinton tax brackets, used the surplus wisely and not wasted up to $12 BILLION DOLLARS per month in an Iraq war built on lies we would not only have been able to shore up Social Security & Medicare but also fund the initial investment on a broader less expensive Healthcare system.
Bush didn't lie, he was wrong... so were both Clintons, Gore, and the rest of the Democrats in the leadership at the time.
The war was funded on credit, as in, money we didn't and still don't have, so we couldn't have used that debt to shore up our other debts. Even if we DID have that money, 12 billion dollars a month wouldn't put a dent in the
3.8 million PER SECOND we spend domestically on programs like SS, Medicare/Medicaid and Welfare.
If you want less expensive healthcare, get government out of the way and let the providers compete for your business. If you want more expensive healthcare with costs that are hidden by being pushed onto future generations, then by all means, continue pushing for a government monopoly that will incur debt on future generations while deteriorating services and capabilities.
They knew support for major Healthcare reform.... It's the American people by their needs and their votes that should make that decision...
"Democracy can last until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largess from the public treasury."
You want to vote yourself "free" healthcare but seem to have forgotten, or never learned, that there is no such thing as a free lunch, someone has to pay for it. Your master plan of "stick it to the rich" will only push us farther off the cliff.
Do everything you can to see to it common ground is never found and just relentlessly complain about the process.
That's what we're trying to change.
Thats what you've done for 8 years and your still doing it. You don't want to change it, you want people like me to STFU and accept your insane wishes without criticism. You will never get my support by calling me a racist for disagreeing with Obama, for calling me unpatriotic when I disagree with the bailouts, or by calling me a lover of Bush and Dick when I point out your messiah is following the same "failed policies" of the last 8 years.
First off... you don't dictate how people post.
I made a suggestion, try not to get carried away by your emotions and lash out in hyperbole.
Sometimes in severely bad economic times as in the Great Depression this time I guess to be known as the Great Bush Rescission you need a bump that only government has the economic capital and mechanism to perform... as in The New Deal.
You swallowed that talking point hook, line and sinker... The New Deal was modeled after the ever "Progressive", Benito Mussolini, Fascist dictator of Italy. The idea that "only government" can get us out of this mess is the same idea that put us here in the first place. Recessions occur naturally in any economy but you "Progressives" seem to think that an economic Utopia is possible and that "if only we gave government enough power to run our lives", that the economy could grow forever without so much as a hiccup... and by some miracle we'd still remain free.
You are trying to stop the rapid domino effect of mass unemployment compounding business failures. By investing in already needed public works (infrastructure) jobs that will have to be done and paid for at some point anyway you put people to work and paying taxes. These people then create jobs for all those that then are needed to service them.
We can't borrow any more money, now we are just printing it. So we print money, adding to our debt and to inflation, to pay people who then turn around and give some of that back in the form of taxes. Once government starts paying these workers, you have to keep printing money to keep paying them or else they go unemployed. As Obama has promised, he will deliver, trillion dollar deficits as far as the eye can see.
The idea is to give the country a window of time without a spiraling in effect allowing the private sector time to bounce back as the works programs are phased out. This takes a year or so to really kick in but nothing starts if one won't even take the first step.
Its a first step in the wrong direction... Capitalism works every time its tried.
Add to that middle class tax cuts (as President Obama had already planned) and that also gives some immediate relief in peoples weekly paychecks while the other parts of the plan are ramping up.
What!?!?! TAX CUTS DURING A WAR!?!?! Who does Obama think he is, Bush?
Perhaps you've forgotten that Obama has promised that his energy policy will cause the "price of electricity to necessarily skyrocket", his actual words, which will further hamper economic recovery and greatly punish the wallets of the lowest income Americans. Perhaps you've also not become aware of the plethora of new taxes that Democrats can't wait to get passed, like a new 61 cent tax on smokes to fund a revamped SCHIP program that will consider 25 year olds as "children" and eligible while making up to $78,000 a year... taxes that disproportionately affect the poor and minorities.
What really are our options? Just keep saying things aren't bad as they continue to steadily worsen. Cut the military and military spending in half. Just say sorry, fend for yourselves, and cancel Social Security & Medicare to American senior citizens.
Your buddy Barney Frank wants to cut military spending by 25%. Your Progressive pals are looking to raise the SS age and cut benefits to people who paid into the system their whole life through means testing.
The best option would be to let capitalism work and get government out of the way. Your Progressive option is to let government screw us over while getting capitalism out of the way.
No, I don't think so I think we try and work out something that gets us through... and with people on both sides saying we need a stimulus package I think that's noteworthy.
Noteworthy because it reinforces my opinion that BOTH parties have gone completely insane and abandoned all hope of them embracing fiscal responsibility.
We will do better and America will maintain it's services to it's people.
You are sacrificing the well being of future generations in order to "maintain" the current ones. Its time our government, and we the people, lived within our means.
