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  1. Mr. Shaman

    Mr. Shaman Well-Known Member

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    ....and, TAXPAYERS picked-up-their-tab!!!

    Well....that's alllllllllllllllllllll gonna CHANGE, NOW!!!!

    :cool:

    ......And, health-care is NEXT!!!!!!!!!!

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    "<Sniff!> My LEGACY!"​
     
  2. GenSeneca

    GenSeneca Well-Known Member

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    Why keep the colleges and universities private?

    Why not just nationalize the colleges and universities?
     
  3. Andy

    Andy Well-Known Member

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    Obviously socialism as worked so well, let's just nationalize the entire country. Surely if China can go from being the dominate economy in the whole world, to being nearly irrelevant with 66% of the population living in poverty... I'm sure we can top that here in America.
     
  4. dahermit

    dahermit Well-Known Member

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    If you take a close look at China, you will see that China is no longer "Communist". Without any rhetoric or fanfare, with few noticing, they quickly changed from a Communist/socialist country to one of "free enterprise" in which the faithful communist party leaders evolved into the privileged corporate giants while still keeping the totalitarian police structure intact.

    The 66% that you state are living in poverty, are in poverty for the same reason that the U.S. has many people living in poverty...unchecked capitalism.
     
  5. Pandora

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    In some ways you are right but in other ways I do not agree

    They have no free speech

    They can not keep a baby they are pregnant with even in the 9th month if they already have a child. The state kills the child a woman is pregnant with instead.

    They are not free to build a church or become a Muslim, bibles are banned and if anyone tried to bring in a Koran that would be too I am sure. I know of Christians who have tried to sneak in bibles for the people have been banned from the country.

    There are serious human rights issues, like taking kidneys from prisoners, and many of the prisoners there are put away for having the wrong political or religious point of view.
     
  6. Pandora

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    Are you suggesting that in the past when China was full blown communistic there were less poor?

    Seriously?

    I am willing to bet that even though there are more people in China today, there is also less starving and its probably due to the capitalism they are embracing.
     
  7. GenSeneca

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    Do you have any idea how utterly ridiculous you sound making such a statement? ...What am I saying, clearly you do not. You probably even believe such nonsense.

    Prior to the governments "war on poverty" beginning in 1964, the poverty rate was steadily declining. Since then, poverty has remained somewhat constant as a percent of the population but the total number of people living in poverty has steadily increased.

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    Its almost criminal that we began that war and its certainly been the most expensive, least rewarding and longest lasting war we've ever undertaken... seeing as it continues to this day.

    Naturally you blame "unchecked Capitalism" which has never been unchecked in the history of the United States and has, in fact, become ever more "checked" by an ever growing, ever intrusive government.

    Now I realize someone of your intellectual caliber may have a short attention span but please stay with me while we move onto China:

    So what were those "far changing economic reforms"? Capitalism.... but just a little bit at a time and the government made sure to keep control of many sectors of the economy. Of course, "Red China" doesn't like to admit they turned to capitalism to save their socialist workers paradise:

    Two things here... first, China went from 100% government control to "just" 30% and the gains they have seen as a result are huge. Secondly, America is going the opposite direction and one need only a basic understanding of history to see where this will lead our country.

    Now this next part is priceless:

    You see... there are some people... some very, very ignorant and gullible people... who claim socialism works. Additionally there are some equally ignorant and gullible people who say Capitalism is a failure. Some such people post right here on these forums and it would really burst their bubble if the Chi-Coms had to admit to the world that Marxism and Socialism were a complete failure and only Capitalism was capable of sustaining a civilized society.
     
  8. Mr. Shaman

    Mr. Shaman Well-Known Member

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    You mean...like...State-colleges???

    :rolleyes:
     
  9. Mr. Shaman

    Mr. Shaman Well-Known Member

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    ....And, this has got what to do, with Lil' Dumbya's denying Medicare the ability to negotiate lower-prices from The Big Pharmas????

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  10. Mr. Shaman

    Mr. Shaman Well-Known Member

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    BINGO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    (....And, the party-leaders were....initially....so worried about Hong Kong'$ influence on The Mainland.)​
     
  11. Mr. Shaman

    Mr. Shaman Well-Known Member

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    Yeah.....their suffering must be unimaginable.

    Just ask Pat Robertson.

    :rolleyes:

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  12. Mr. Shaman

    Mr. Shaman Well-Known Member

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    So much for free-speech, babies & Bibles, huh?

    :rolleyes:
     
  13. Mr. Shaman

    Mr. Shaman Well-Known Member

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    Yeah....right....what's a Vulture Capitalist to do??!!!

    Can't a hu$tler get a BREAK??!!!

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    Only a Progressive super genius like yourself would post links about government officials corrupt activities inside the private sector as proof that capitalism was to blame and not government. :rolleyes:

    Watch out for Shaman people, he has foot-in-mouth disease.
     
  15. Andy

    Andy Well-Known Member

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    First, who cares what Pat Robertson says.

    Second, you can post all the pictures you want, and all the irrelevant articles you wish. The bottom line is, people from China are migrating away from there, simply because they shouldn't have to murder their kids. Ironically Americans fight for the right to murder their children. Pretty sad really.
     
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