us is a socialist country

[mark francis]

Public schools were a democrat idea? Cool
Republicans don't want poor people educated therefore

No, nearly every ivy league American university was established in the beginning as a Christian school.

 

[Gabriel_Bell]

No, nearly every ivy league American university was established in the beginning as a Christian school.

So what? None of them presently advocates for any specific religion or sect. And none of them are tax-supported government affiliated schools.

 

[mark francis]

So what? None of them presently advocates for any specific religion or sect. And none of them are tax-supported government affiliated schools.

Is this what you are attempting to deny?

Harvard attracts federal funding, supports economy

Harvard University uses its federal research funding to foster economic growth throughout the region.

news.harvard.edu

Last year, for example, Harvard University attracted more than $800 million in research funding, with 70 percent coming from the federal government. This funding supported hundreds of millions in salaries and wages for Massachusetts residents, as well as purchases from local businesses, with more than $21 million directed to companies in Harvard’s host communities of Boston and Cambridge.

 

[Boris Norris]

I oppose Democrat socialism, designed to turn poor blacks into perpetual Democrat voters.

Socialism exists under the republican party also. You don't know what it is.

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[mark francis]

Socialism exists under the republican party also. You don't know what it is.

Good Americans continue to resist bad socialist policies embraced by certain deluded elements in our government.

 

[jbander]

Like I said,has anyone ever come up to you and said . you know I think it would be a good idea if all business was owned and run by the state and there should be no private ownership of business. and sales of all production should be designated to the state. Socialism doesn't exist in the United states and the only way it ever will is if the main advantage of capitalism , the promise of the possibility to get ahead with a fair distribution of the wealth is stopped by the wealthy wanting and demanding it all . The only threat to capitalism and the only way socialism would or could win out in this country is if the golden few get all the new wealth of this country. That is the only threat that exist. To repeat myself there isn't enough socialism in this country to fill a thimble. The only way it can be other then that, is if the least intelligent among us define what socialism is them selves. Problem is socialism already has a definition and that definitions says their definition is stupid.

 

[Boris Norris]

Good Americans continue to resist bad socialist policies embraced by certain deluded elements in our government.

You mean you do but use it everyday you hypocrite.

 

[mark francis]

Socialism exists under the republican party also. You don't know what it is.

Like I said, I support republican social programs like workfare welfare.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Workfare#Critique

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Workfare is a governmental plan under which welfare recipients are required to accept public-service jobs or to participate in job training.[1] Many countries around the world have adopted workfare (sometimes implemented as "work-first" policies) to reduce poverty among able-bodied adults; however, their approaches to execution vary.[2] The United States and United Kingdom are two countries utilizing workfare, albeit with different backgrounds.

 

[mark francis]

Like I said,has anyone ever come up to you and said . you know I think it would be a good idea if all business was owned and run by the state and there should be no private ownership of business. and sales of all production should be designated to the state. Socialism doesn't exist in the United states and the only way it ever will is if the main advantage of capitalism , the promise of the possibility to get ahead with a fair distribution of the wealth is stopped by the wealthy wanting and demanding it all . The only threat to capitalism and the only way socialism would or could win out in this country is if the golden few get all the new wealth of this country. That is the only threat that exist. To repeat myself there isn't enough socialism in this country to fill a thimble. The only way it can be other then that, is if the least intelligent among us define what socialism is them selves. Problem is socialism already has a definition and that definitions says their definition is stupid.

There will always exist a gap between the rich and the poor. In free nations the gap exists between those who are blessed with inheritances, higher levels of intelligence, luck in business, hard work in business, responsible behaviors and lifestyles, and so forth, and those lacking such advantages. In communist and slave nations the gap exists between the rich in power with their supporters and the slaves lacking any voice in politics.

Matthew 26:11
For ye have the poor always with you; but me ye have not always.

 

[Gabriel_Bell]

Socialism exists under the republican party also. You don't know what it is.

Is this what you are attempting to deny?

Harvard attracts federal funding, supports economy

Harvard University uses its federal research funding to foster economic growth throughout the region.

news.harvard.edu

Last year, for example, Harvard University attracted more than $800 million in research funding, with 70 percent coming from the federal government. This funding supported hundreds of millions in salaries and wages for Massachusetts residents, as well as purchases from local businesses, with more than $21 million directed to companies in Harvard’s host communities of Boston and Cambridge.

The management of Harvard and all if not most of the Ivy League colleges & universities s not dictated by any church, Christian or otherwise. Funds these institutions get from the government are managed according to specific contracts. There is no obligation for any of the Ivies to accept government funds or to manager projects of the government.

My point is that no church, Christian or otherwise, dictates the management of any of the Ivies. So the statement that these organizations began as religious institutions is moot and without significance at the present time.

 

[Gabriel_Bell]

Socialism exists under the republican party also. You don't know what it is.

So because one recipient out of millions made a stupid statement, you believe that public assistance to the poor should be abolished?

 

[Gabriel_Bell]

There will always exist a gap between the rich and the poor. In free nations the gap exists between those who are blessed with inheritances, higher levels of intelligence, luck in business, hard work in business, responsible behaviors and lifestyles, and so forth, and those lacking such advantages. In communist and slave nations the gap exists between the rich in power with their supporters and the slaves lacking any voice in politics.

Matthew 26:11
For ye have the poor always with you; but me ye have not always.

So what Jesus is saying here is that Jesus will no longer be capable of doing anything after he is dead. That would appear to be contrary to current Christian beliefs, that state that Jesus is up there, or somewhere, listening to our prayers and awaiting the Final Judgement, according to the Book of Revelation.
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The idea that there will always be poor people is both pessimistic and stupid.

Capitalism is an excellent tool for increasing wealth, but it causes huge disparities between the wealthiest and the poorest. That is why some amount of socialism is required. Every modern industrialized country has provisions to provide some assistance to the few people who are actually incapable of holding a job or generating income: children, the elderly, people with serious handicaps and diseases.

People living in this country that are capable of holding a job should be given an opportunity to work: this includes people who are awaiting a decision regarding their claims for amnesty. So the government does and should provide them with some money so they will not be forced to steal to feed themselves.

And that is as it should be.

 

[mark francis]

The management of Harvard and all if not most of the Ivy League colleges & universities s not dictated by any church, Christian or otherwise. Funds these institutions get from the government are managed according to specific contracts. There is no obligation for any of the Ivies to accept government funds or to manager projects of the government.

My point is that no church, Christian or otherwise, dictates the management of any of the Ivies. So the statement that these organizations began as religious institutions is moot and without significance at the present time.

That is correct. God's influence in ivy league schools was destroyed years ago.

 

[mark francis]

So what Jesus is saying here is that Jesus will no longer be capable of doing anything after he is dead. That would appear to be contrary to current Christian beliefs, that state that Jesus is up there, or somewhere, listening to our prayers and awaiting the Final Judgement, according to the Book of Revelation.

You have taken a wrong turn somewhere on your journey toward understanding the Bible and God.

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The idea that there will always be poor people is both pessimistic and stupid.

The world has always had poor people just as the world has always had greedy rich people. I see nothing to suspect that will ever change.

Capitalism is an excellent tool for increasing wealth, but it causes huge disparities between the wealthiest and the poorest. That is why some amount of socialism is required. Every modern industrialized country has provisions to provide some assistance to the few people who are actually incapable of holding a job or generating income: children, the elderly, people with serious handicaps and diseases.

Disparities between the rich and poor are even greater in socialist and communist nations with the increased dehumanization of brutal oppression by the rich and powerful over the mostly helpless citizen-subjects.

People living in this country that are capable of holding a job should be given an opportunity to work: this includes people who are awaiting a decision regarding their claims for amnesty. So the government does and should provide them with some money so they will not be forced to steal to feed themselves.

And that is as it should be.

Opportunities for Americans competing to work in tight job markets mean competition between illegal and legal workers will create heartbreaking divisions and animosities.

 

[Gabriel_Bell]

Jesus was firmly n favor of feeding and clothing the poor. You are one effing hypocrite.
I am not disturbed to know that someone is picking beans and berries or dismembering poultry and swine who is not a citizen.
Picking crops is not unskilled labor, nor is it a job that older people can do efficiently.

There is practically no poverty in the Scandinavian countries or in the Netherlands or Japan. The US has LOTS of poor people begging in the streets, I see them every day. Every Thursday, there is a parade of cars that passes in front of my house, awaiting a free food giveaway at a Haitian Church around the corner. Are they legally here? I don't know and I do not care. I am glad that they are getting free vegetables from good Christians.

Because they will get zilch from bad hypocrites that believe as you do.