Voting machines can and do flip votes

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Forget all the unproven claims that voting machines did not flip votes in 2020, the evidence shows otherwise.

Smartmatic software flipped the 2004 Venezuelan election from 40- 60 (Chavez loses) to 60 – 40 (Chavez won) | The Wentworth Report 11-20-20
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https://www.itworldcanada.com/article/vote-flipping-plagues-e-voting/72690 11-08-06
Vote-flipping plagues e-voting
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About That "Flipping" Vote -- What You Should Know | Brennan Center for Justice 10-29-08
About That “Flipping” Vote—What You Should Know
There has been a rash of reports of “vote flipping” in early voting states…
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Vote Flipping Claims Underline Urgent Need to Fix Voting Machines | Brennan Center for Justice 10-24-18
Vote Flipping Claims Underline Urgent Need to Fix Voting Machines
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NAACP issues warning about Texas voting machines: Votes for Beto O'Rourke changed to Ted Cruz | Salon.com
NAACP issues warning about Texas voting machines: Votes for Beto O'Rourke changed to Ted Cruz
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Experts have proved and courts agree that voting machines are vulnerable to hacking and switching votes.

Expert report fuels election doubts as Georgia waits to update voting software (nbcnews.com) 6-16-23

xpert report fuels election doubts as Georgia waits to update voting software

A newly unsealed expert report arguing that Georgia’s Dominion voting machines are vulnerable to hacking is fueling election doubts in Georgia.

A voter wears a sticker that reads "I'm a Georgia Voter" at a polling station in Atlanta. Kevin D. Liles / Bloomberg via Getty Images file

June 16, 2023, 2:44 PM EDT

By Jane C. Timm and Kevin Collier

A newly unsealed expert report arguing that Georgia’s Dominion Voting Systems machines are vulnerable to vote switching and hacking is raising alarms in Georgia, even as the state downplays the risks and their plans to mitigate them.

This week, a federal judge in Atlanta unsealed two reports in a federal court case over the use of Dominion ballot-marking devices in Georgia elections. One report, authored by University of Michigan computer science professor Alex Halderman for the plaintiffs in a federal court case seeking to block the use of Dominion machines in Georgia's elections, argued that the machines are critically vulnerable to hacking. The other, paid for by Dominion, argued the identified vulnerabilities were practically unlikely, while Georgia officials say they are exaggerated and unrealistic.

But federal authorities have identified the same vulnerabilities, and more than 20 cybersecurity experts rushed to defend Halderman's report this week. Some of the issues could be mitigated by upgrading the Dominion software, but Georgia officials say the upgrade is unrealistic — an enormous undertaking they won’t start until after the 2024 elections.

Halderman was was given access to the voting machines by the federal judge in the case, and he argues in his report that the state’s ballot-marking devices are vulnerable to election fraud, including vote switching.
 
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mark francis said:
Forget all the unproven claims that voting machines did not flip votes in 2020, the evidence shows otherwise.

Smartmatic software flipped the 2004 Venezuelan election from 40- 60 (Chavez loses) to 60 – 40 (Chavez won) | The Wentworth Report 11-20-20
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https://www.itworldcanada.com/article/vote-flipping-plagues-e-voting/72690 11-08-06
Vote-flipping plagues e-voting
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About That "Flipping" Vote -- What You Should Know | Brennan Center for Justice 10-29-08
About That “Flipping” Vote—What You Should Know
There has been a rash of reports of “vote flipping” in early voting states…
+++++++++++++++++

Vote Flipping Claims Underline Urgent Need to Fix Voting Machines | Brennan Center for Justice 10-24-18
Vote Flipping Claims Underline Urgent Need to Fix Voting Machines
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NAACP issues warning about Texas voting machines: Votes for Beto O'Rourke changed to Ted Cruz | Salon.com
NAACP issues warning about Texas voting machines: Votes for Beto O'Rourke changed to Ted Cruz
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Experts have proved and courts agree that voting machines are vulnerable to hacking and switching votes.

Expert report fuels election doubts as Georgia waits to update voting software (nbcnews.com) 6-16-23

xpert report fuels election doubts as Georgia waits to update voting software

A newly unsealed expert report arguing that Georgia’s Dominion voting machines are vulnerable to hacking is fueling election doubts in Georgia.

A voter wears a sticker that reads "I'm a Georgia Voter" at a polling station in Atlanta. Kevin D. Liles / Bloomberg via Getty Images file

June 16, 2023, 2:44 PM EDT

By Jane C. Timm and Kevin Collier

A newly unsealed expert report arguing that Georgia’s Dominion Voting Systems machines are vulnerable to vote switching and hacking is raising alarms in Georgia, even as the state downplays the risks and their plans to mitigate them.

This week, a federal judge in Atlanta unsealed two reports in a federal court case over the use of Dominion ballot-marking devices in Georgia elections. One report, authored by University of Michigan computer science professor Alex Halderman for the plaintiffs in a federal court case seeking to block the use of Dominion machines in Georgia's elections, argued that the machines are critically vulnerable to hacking. The other, paid for by Dominion, argued the identified vulnerabilities were practically unlikely, while Georgia officials say they are exaggerated and unrealistic.

But federal authorities have identified the same vulnerabilities, and more than 20 cybersecurity experts rushed to defend Halderman's report this week. Some of the issues could be mitigated by upgrading the Dominion software, but Georgia officials say the upgrade is unrealistic — an enormous undertaking they won’t start until after the 2024 elections.

Halderman was was given access to the voting machines by the federal judge in the case, and he argues in his report that the state’s ballot-marking devices are vulnerable to election fraud, including vote switching.
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Those articles don't prove it was done. It suggests they can be manipulated but dominion were proven Tobe right when they were checked. Fix paid 700 million to find out they were wrong yet your still here 3 years later still barking fraud.
Go away you silly old fool.
 
Boris Norris said:
Those articles don't prove it was done. It suggests they can be manipulated but dominion were proven Tobe right when they were checked. Fix paid 700 million to find out they were wrong yet your still here 3 years later still barking fraud.
Go away you silly old fool.
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Nobody proved votes were not flipped in 2020 and nobody proved voting machines can be trusted to not have flipped votes so no investigations into their vote-counting history need be done. Votes are still being flipped by corrupted machines today.

Pennsylvania Voting Machines Changing Votes Sparks Outrage (msn.com) 11-7-23

DORAL, FL - AUGUST 08: Andcherla Marcelin, a Miami-Dade election support specialists, checks voting machines for accuracy at the Miami-Dade Election Department headquarters on August 8, 2018 in Doral, Florida. Meanwhile, voting machines in Pennsylvania flipping votes sparks backlash online Tuesday. (Photo by Joe Raedle/Getty Images)

An error with voting machines in Pennsylvania, causing votes to change amid an output print error, is sparking outrage online Tuesday.

Officials with the Northampton County Elections Office released a statement Tuesday saying that it appears when voters select "Yes" or "No" for one of the candidates for Pennsylvania Superior Court, the vote is recorded for the other

The issue is limited to the retention of Pennsylvania Superior Court, affecting Judge Jack Panella and Judge Victor P. Stabile, county officials said.

According to the Associated Press (AP), Northampton County Executive Lamont McClure said voters first noticed the error on the printed voting records produced by the touchscreen machines.

In the release on Tuesday, officials said that the Elections Division of the County of Northampton "notified all poll workers by text message that they are to instruct voters before the voter enters the voting booth that there is an issue with the recording of their vote for the candidates for retention to the Pennsylvania Superior Court."


In response to news of the error, Congressman Byron Donalds, a Florida Republican, took to X, formerly Twitter, saying, "This is why Americans have a growing distrust of the system. It baffles me how Democrats consistently screw up the execution of elections to the peril and misfortune of the voter. Make Elections Safe and Secure AGAIN!!!"

Rogan O'Handley, a pro-Trump conservative commentator, said on X, "BREAKING: Voting machines in Pennsylvania shut down after getting caught flipping votes Democrats run that state and will cheat in *any* way possible ENOUGH IS ENOUGH - Get rid of these damn rigged machines!!"

Conservative commentator Laura Loomer also responded on X, saying, "BREAKING: Voting machines in Pennsylvania flipped votes for judges in a tabulation error! Proof the machines flip votes. Election machines cannot be trusted!"

Benny Johnson, conservative commentator, also reacted to the news on X, saying, "Voting machines in Pennsylvania are now being shut down after reports of machines 'flipping votes.' And this is why Americans have lost all faith in our electoral process. Add this to the list of election fraud cases we've recently learned about:
 
mark francis said:
Forget all the unproven claims that voting machines did not flip votes in 2020, the evidence shows otherwise.

Smartmatic software flipped the 2004 Venezuelan election from 40- 60 (Chavez loses) to 60 – 40 (Chavez won) | The Wentworth Report 11-20-20
**********************

https://www.itworldcanada.com/article/vote-flipping-plagues-e-voting/72690 11-08-06
Vote-flipping plagues e-voting
**************

About That "Flipping" Vote -- What You Should Know | Brennan Center for Justice 10-29-08
About That “Flipping” Vote—What You Should Know
There has been a rash of reports of “vote flipping” in early voting states…
+++++++++++++++++

Vote Flipping Claims Underline Urgent Need to Fix Voting Machines | Brennan Center for Justice 10-24-18
Vote Flipping Claims Underline Urgent Need to Fix Voting Machines
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NAACP issues warning about Texas voting machines: Votes for Beto O'Rourke changed to Ted Cruz | Salon.com
NAACP issues warning about Texas voting machines: Votes for Beto O'Rourke changed to Ted Cruz
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Experts have proved and courts agree that voting machines are vulnerable to hacking and switching votes.

Expert report fuels election doubts as Georgia waits to update voting software (nbcnews.com) 6-16-23

xpert report fuels election doubts as Georgia waits to update voting software

A newly unsealed expert report arguing that Georgia’s Dominion voting machines are vulnerable to hacking is fueling election doubts in Georgia.

A voter wears a sticker that reads "I'm a Georgia Voter" at a polling station in Atlanta. Kevin D. Liles / Bloomberg via Getty Images file

June 16, 2023, 2:44 PM EDT

By Jane C. Timm and Kevin Collier

A newly unsealed expert report arguing that Georgia’s Dominion Voting Systems machines are vulnerable to vote switching and hacking is raising alarms in Georgia, even as the state downplays the risks and their plans to mitigate them.

This week, a federal judge in Atlanta unsealed two reports in a federal court case over the use of Dominion ballot-marking devices in Georgia elections. One report, authored by University of Michigan computer science professor Alex Halderman for the plaintiffs in a federal court case seeking to block the use of Dominion machines in Georgia's elections, argued that the machines are critically vulnerable to hacking. The other, paid for by Dominion, argued the identified vulnerabilities were practically unlikely, while Georgia officials say they are exaggerated and unrealistic.

But federal authorities have identified the same vulnerabilities, and more than 20 cybersecurity experts rushed to defend Halderman's report this week. Some of the issues could be mitigated by upgrading the Dominion software, but Georgia officials say the upgrade is unrealistic — an enormous undertaking they won’t start until after the 2024 elections.

Halderman was was given access to the voting machines by the federal judge in the case, and he argues in his report that the state’s ballot-marking devices are vulnerable to election fraud, including vote switching.
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No evidence of 2020 vote flipping duh
You are a voting moron lol
 
mark francis said:
Nobody proved votes were not flipped in 2020 and nobody proved voting machines can be trusted to not have flipped votes so no investigations into their vote-counting history need be done. Votes are still being flipped by corrupted machines today.

Pennsylvania Voting Machines Changing Votes Sparks Outrage (msn.com) 11-7-23

DORAL, FL - AUGUST 08: Andcherla Marcelin, a Miami-Dade election support specialists, checks voting machines for accuracy at the Miami-Dade Election Department headquarters on August 8, 2018 in Doral, Florida. Meanwhile, voting machines in Pennsylvania flipping votes sparks backlash online Tuesday. (Photo by Joe Raedle/Getty Images)

An error with voting machines in Pennsylvania, causing votes to change amid an output print error, is sparking outrage online Tuesday.

Officials with the Northampton County Elections Office released a statement Tuesday saying that it appears when voters select "Yes" or "No" for one of the candidates for Pennsylvania Superior Court, the vote is recorded for the other

The issue is limited to the retention of Pennsylvania Superior Court, affecting Judge Jack Panella and Judge Victor P. Stabile, county officials said.

According to the Associated Press (AP), Northampton County Executive Lamont McClure said voters first noticed the error on the printed voting records produced by the touchscreen machines.

In the release on Tuesday, officials said that the Elections Division of the County of Northampton "notified all poll workers by text message that they are to instruct voters before the voter enters the voting booth that there is an issue with the recording of their vote for the candidates for retention to the Pennsylvania Superior Court."


In response to news of the error, Congressman Byron Donalds, a Florida Republican, took to X, formerly Twitter, saying, "This is why Americans have a growing distrust of the system. It baffles me how Democrats consistently screw up the execution of elections to the peril and misfortune of the voter. Make Elections Safe and Secure AGAIN!!!"

Rogan O'Handley, a pro-Trump conservative commentator, said on X, "BREAKING: Voting machines in Pennsylvania shut down after getting caught flipping votes Democrats run that state and will cheat in *any* way possible ENOUGH IS ENOUGH - Get rid of these damn rigged machines!!"

Conservative commentator Laura Loomer also responded on X, saying, "BREAKING: Voting machines in Pennsylvania flipped votes for judges in a tabulation error! Proof the machines flip votes. Election machines cannot be trusted!"

Benny Johnson, conservative commentator, also reacted to the news on X, saying, "Voting machines in Pennsylvania are now being shut down after reports of machines 'flipping votes.' And this is why Americans have lost all faith in our electoral process. Add this to the list of election fraud cases we've recently learned about:
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Still no actual evidence of 2020 vote flipping, voting moron lol
 
pjmret said:
No evidence of 2020 vote flipping duh
You are a voting moron lol
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The lack of more widespread forensic evidence of 2020 vote flipping is largely due to the fact that Democrats obstructed investigations into voting machine corruption until after the Democrats had secured their stolen election with Biden's inauguration.

We know Democrats have a history of condoning racism, violence, baby killing, assaults on cops, and more, yet we are expected by the majority mob to believe they would never commit voting fraud. That is preposterous, given all the evidence of widespread 2020 voting fraud and history of Democrat voting fraud in this country.

Try googling "How many voting machines actually underwent extensive examinations before Biden was sworn in." Practically none, and yet not even a week had gone by after the election but before some states were even finished counting Democrat votes, leftists assured us that there was no evidence of machine fraud. What was the basis of their assurance, deep dive investigations into voting machines? No, none of that. The denials of Democrat voting fraud began on or before the moment the polls closed on election night and was supported by affirmations from people of recognition but none of those affirmations were backed by credible forensic evidence.

Democrats lie. They did not investigate their own machines and they fought like hell to prevent anyone else from examining them.
 
pjmret said:
Sure they do
Arizona did one that is available to everyone including demo rats
And voting morons like you lol

Here is a link for all you voting morons
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Let's provide some context. Evidence of voting fraud began streaming out of American news sources even before polls closed, and Trump-hating leftists and leftist sources began claiming they had already debunked the evidence. Really? When did they debunk the evidence? How did they debunk the evidence? By amassing false claims from Trump-hating leftists and weak-minded rubes who just went along with the looting and lying Democrat mob, but the claims were not based on actual investigations and solid facts.

This report by a Trump-opposing leftist came out 8 days after the election was officially ended (although Democrats did not stop counting and adding votes for Biden for several more days after polls closed.):

Trump Cites Debunked Conspiracy that Dominion Changed Votes (mediaite.com) 11-12-20
Trump Goes ALL Caps Promoting OAN’s Voter Fraud Conspiracy Debunked By the NY Times and Others

Colby HallNov 12th, 2020, 12:19 pm

Trump cited a report that a company called Dominion, the maker of voting machines used across the country in the November 3rd general election, “deleted 2.7 million trump votes nationwide,” before listing specific votes switched by state.

Here follows an unsubstantiated anti-Trump opinion of the leftist propaganda:

There are a number of unverified, baseless, and largely debunked conspiracy theories that are being promoted in the more unhinged parts of Trump’s base of supporters.

The Dominion voting machine conspiracy is based on what is claimed to be a last-minute “patch” or computer software update that happened on the eve of the election. (Not true. The evidence of Dominion corruption is much broader than that and is based upon unrefuted evidence from several states.) These voting machines were used in counties in Georgia, Michigan, and, yes, Pennsylvania, but as of yet, there is no evidence from any reliable source that gives any indication of validity.

The source of Trump’s conspiratorial missive comes not from Rion, but from OAN’s Lilia Fifield, who reported this morning that “election systems across the country are found to have deleted millions of votes cast for president trump,” citing data obtained from Edison Research. (Evidence of machine voting fraud came from dozens of sources in several states. The evidence was reported by Trump but did not originate with him or with individual supporters, even though it was reported by Trump supporters and never actually refuted by Biden supporters. The evidence of massive machine fraud comes from the machines themselves.)

The report goes on to claim that Dominion voting systems may have switched as many as 435,000 votes from President Trump to Joe Biden” and the author also finds “another 2,700,000 Trump votes appear to have been deleted by dominion including almost one million truckloads in Pennsylvania alone.”

The problem with this report, however, is that it only appears to exist in the dark conspiratorial ecosystem of the Internet. There is no report on this available on the website of Edison Research. Further, the Dominion computer glitch conspiracy has been debunked by Snopes and the New York Times as well.

The leftists claim the report "appears to exist" outside actual facts and evidence, but the leftists fail to prove the evidence is false. They would need to have asked for and received thorough bipartisan evaluations of the machines immediately after the election in order to declare without fear of contradiction that the machines had not been corrupted, but they did not do that. Therefore, they all lie who claim they looked and found no evidence of fraud. Not only did they never look they did not have time to properly investigate before falsely claiming they investigated and found no flaws.
 
mark francis said:
Let's provide some context. Evidence of voting fraud began streaming out of American news sources even before polls closed, and Trump-hating leftists and leftist sources began claiming they had already debunked the evidence. Really? When did they debunk the evidence? How did they debunk the evidence? By amassing false claims from Trump-hating leftists and weak-minded rubes who just went along with the looting and lying Democrat mob, but the claims were not based on actual investigations and solid facts.

This report by a Trump-opposing leftist came out 8 days after the election was officially ended (although Democrats did not stop counting and adding votes for Biden for several more days after polls closed.):

Trump Cites Debunked Conspiracy that Dominion Changed Votes (mediaite.com) 11-12-20
Trump Goes ALL Caps Promoting OAN’s Voter Fraud Conspiracy Debunked By the NY Times and Others

Colby HallNov 12th, 2020, 12:19 pm

Trump cited a report that a company called Dominion, the maker of voting machines used across the country in the November 3rd general election, “deleted 2.7 million trump votes nationwide,” before listing specific votes switched by state.

Here follows an unsubstantiated anti-Trump opinion of the leftist propaganda:

There are a number of unverified, baseless, and largely debunked conspiracy theories that are being promoted in the more unhinged parts of Trump’s base of supporters.

The Dominion voting machine conspiracy is based on what is claimed to be a last-minute “patch” or computer software update that happened on the eve of the election. (Not true. The evidence of Dominion corruption is much broader than that and is based upon unrefuted evidence from several states.) These voting machines were used in counties in Georgia, Michigan, and, yes, Pennsylvania, but as of yet, there is no evidence from any reliable source that gives any indication of validity.

The source of Trump’s conspiratorial missive comes not from Rion, but from OAN’s Lilia Fifield, who reported this morning that “election systems across the country are found to have deleted millions of votes cast for president trump,” citing data obtained from Edison Research. (Evidence of machine voting fraud came from dozens of sources in several states. The evidence was reported by Trump but did not originate with him or with individual supporters, even though it was reported by Trump supporters and never actually refuted by Biden supporters. The evidence of massive machine fraud comes from the machines themselves.)

The report goes on to claim that Dominion voting systems may have switched as many as 435,000 votes from President Trump to Joe Biden” and the author also finds “another 2,700,000 Trump votes appear to have been deleted by dominion including almost one million truckloads in Pennsylvania alone.”

The problem with this report, however, is that it only appears to exist in the dark conspiratorial ecosystem of the Internet. There is no report on this available on the website of Edison Research. Further, the Dominion computer glitch conspiracy has been debunked by Snopes and the New York Times as well.

The leftists claim the report "appears to exist" outside actual facts and evidence, but the leftists fail to prove the evidence is false. They would need to have asked for and received thorough bipartisan evaluations of the machines immediately after the election in order to declare without fear of contradiction that the machines had not been corrupted, but they did not do that. Therefore, they all lie who claim they looked and found no evidence of fraud. Not only did they never look they did not have time to properly investigate before falsely claiming they investigated and found no flaws.
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Lol you can't admit you lied

Your evidence isn't credible or you wouldn't have lost every court case

You are a voting moron

You didn't disprove that Trump didn't win 2016 by fraud lol
Except I am not a voting moron so I would exp5 you to do that
Only a voting moron like you would
Lol
 
mark francis said:
Let's provide some context. Evidence of voting fraud began streaming out of American news sources even before polls closed, and Trump-hating leftists and leftist sources began claiming they had already debunked the evidence. Really? When did they debunk the evidence? How did they debunk the evidence? By amassing false claims from Trump-hating leftists and weak-minded rubes who just went along with the looting and lying Democrat mob, but the claims were not based on actual investigations and solid facts.

This report by a Trump-opposing leftist came out 8 days after the election was officially ended (although Democrats did not stop counting and adding votes for Biden for several more days after polls closed.):

Trump Cites Debunked Conspiracy that Dominion Changed Votes (mediaite.com) 11-12-20
Trump Goes ALL Caps Promoting OAN’s Voter Fraud Conspiracy Debunked By the NY Times and Others

Colby HallNov 12th, 2020, 12:19 pm

Trump cited a report that a company called Dominion, the maker of voting machines used across the country in the November 3rd general election, “deleted 2.7 million trump votes nationwide,” before listing specific votes switched by state.

Here follows an unsubstantiated anti-Trump opinion of the leftist propaganda:

There are a number of unverified, baseless, and largely debunked conspiracy theories that are being promoted in the more unhinged parts of Trump’s base of supporters.

The Dominion voting machine conspiracy is based on what is claimed to be a last-minute “patch” or computer software update that happened on the eve of the election. (Not true. The evidence of Dominion corruption is much broader than that and is based upon unrefuted evidence from several states.) These voting machines were used in counties in Georgia, Michigan, and, yes, Pennsylvania, but as of yet, there is no evidence from any reliable source that gives any indication of validity.

The source of Trump’s conspiratorial missive comes not from Rion, but from OAN’s Lilia Fifield, who reported this morning that “election systems across the country are found to have deleted millions of votes cast for president trump,” citing data obtained from Edison Research. (Evidence of machine voting fraud came from dozens of sources in several states. The evidence was reported by Trump but did not originate with him or with individual supporters, even though it was reported by Trump supporters and never actually refuted by Biden supporters. The evidence of massive machine fraud comes from the machines themselves.)

The report goes on to claim that Dominion voting systems may have switched as many as 435,000 votes from President Trump to Joe Biden” and the author also finds “another 2,700,000 Trump votes appear to have been deleted by dominion including almost one million truckloads in Pennsylvania alone.”

The problem with this report, however, is that it only appears to exist in the dark conspiratorial ecosystem of the Internet. There is no report on this available on the website of Edison Research. Further, the Dominion computer glitch conspiracy has been debunked by Snopes and the New York Times as well.

The leftists claim the report "appears to exist" outside actual facts and evidence, but the leftists fail to prove the evidence is false. They would need to have asked for and received thorough bipartisan evaluations of the machines immediately after the election in order to declare without fear of contradiction that the machines had not been corrupted, but they did not do that. Therefore, they all lie who claim they looked and found no evidence of fraud. Not only did they never look they did not have time to properly investigate before falsely claiming they investigated and found no flaws.
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Elections are decided by who wins not by proving someone didn't win.

Your obsessed with the shit that because someone didn't prove there was no fraud it automatically becomes fraudulent.

The logic is all wrong. when Trump won you never challenged anything.
It's pure bitterness now he lost. Everyone can see the crap you're belching and know it's bullshit. But it's not surprising you do believe it because you believe there's a god so anything is possible.
 
pjmret said:
Lol you can't admit you lied

Your evidence isn't credible or you wouldn't have lost every court case

You are a voting moron

You didn't disprove that Trump didn't win 2016 by fraud lol
Except I am not a voting moron so I would exp5 you to do that
Only a voting moron like you would
Lol
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Wrong. Like mobs of dishonest or uninformed Biden supporters rushed to sign the leftist declaration that the Hunter Biden laptop was a lie, we had thousands of Biden supporters claiming just days after the election that evidence of voter fraud had been debunked when nobody had yet had time to investigate the evidence, and nobody had disproven it.
 
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Boris Norris said:
Elections are decided by who wins not by proving someone didn't win.

Your obsessed with the shit that because someone didn't prove there was no fraud it automatically becomes fraudulent.

The logic is all wrong. when Trump won you never challenged anything.
It's pure bitterness now he lost. Everyone can see the crap you're belching and know it's bullshit. But it's not surprising you do believe it because you believe there's a god so anything is possible.
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Fraud is committed by lowlife crooks and is not debunked without investigations. Investigations into the massive evidence of fraud had not yet been done and there had not yet been enough time for the investigations to have been done, yet tens of thousands of lying leftists dishonestly insisted the evidence of fraud had been thoroughly investigated and disproven.
 

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