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Loosing your freedoms

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Dr.Who

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We elect the government. It works for us. As we watch the Democrats' plans for health care take shape, we can only ask how did our government get so removed, so unbridled, so arrogant that it can tell us how to live our personal lives?

Last Saturday, at 11 o’clock in the evening, the House of Representatives voted by a five vote margin to have the federal government manage the health care of every American at a cost of $1 trillion dollars over the next ten years.

For the first time in American history, if this bill becomes law, the Feds will force you to buy insurance you might not want, or may not need, or cannot afford. If you don’t purchase what the government tells you to buy, if you don’t do so when they tell you to do it, and if you don’t buy just what they say is right for you, the government may fine you, prosecute you, and even put you in jail. Freedom of choice and control over your own body will be lost. The privacy of your communications and medical decision making with your physician will be gone. More of your hard earned dollars will be at the disposal of federal bureaucrats.

It was not supposed to be this way. We elect the government. It works for us. How did it get so removed, so unbridled, so arrogant that it can tell us how to live our personal lives? Evil rarely comes upon us all at once, and liberty is rarely lost in one stroke. It happens gradually, over the years and decades and even centuries. A little stretch here, a cave in there, powers are slowly taken from the states and the people and before you know it, we have one big monster government that recognizes no restraint on its ability to tell us how to live. It claims the power to regulate any activity, tax any behavior, and demand conformity to any standard it chooses.

The Founders did not give us a government like the one we have today. The government they gave us was strictly limited in its scope, guaranteed individual liberty, preserved the free market, and on matters that pertain to our private behavior was supposed to leave us alone.

In the Constitution, the Founders built in checks and balances. If the Congress got out of hand, the states would restrain it. If the states stole liberty or property, the Congress would cure it. If the President tried to become a king, the courts would prevent it.

In the next few weeks, I will be giving a public class on Constitutional Law here on the Fox News Channel, on the Fox Business Network, on Foxnews.com, and on Fox Nation. In anticipation of that, many of you have asked: What can we do now about the loss of freedom? For starters, we can vote the bums out of their cushy federal offices! We can persuade our state governments to defy the Feds in areas like health care -- where the Constitution gives the Feds zero authority. We can petition our state legislatures to threaten to amend the Constitution to abolish the income tax, return the selection of U.S. senators to state legislatures and nullify all the laws the Congress has written that are not based in the Constitution.

One thing we can’t do is just sit back and take it.
 
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Nonsense. We are all paying for healthcare (both directly and indirectly) anyway; and we’re all paying more for it every time some uninsured person goes to the emergency room. So why not get what we are all paying for? And, more to the point, why not get our money’s worth? What’s so un-American about that?

It’s high time that the Congress got off its collective ass and passed healthcare reform legislation. The healthcare industry (which has been largely subsidized by the government) has had its way with us for far too long.
 
Nonsense. We are all paying for healthcare (both directly and indirectly) anyway; and we’re all paying more for it every time some uninsured person goes to the emergency room. So why not get what we are all paying for? And, more to the point, why not get our money’s worth? What’s so un-American about that?

If we pay for it when uninsured people go to the ER then you admit that they are getting health care. I would prefer to know how and where the money is being spent. When welfare pays for an uninsured person at the ER we know it is welfare.

Under the proposed system costs will go up and the money will be played with in some monstrous shell game so that we never know what is spent where.

But second most importantly it will cost more under the new system.

The first most important fact is that you are arguing that the new system makes it worth it for us all to lose our freedoms because we will get our money's worth. It isn't worth it for 100% of the population to loose freedom so that 13 million people without insurance, who already have health care, can then have insurance which profits those who sell insurance.
 
"the House of Representatives voted by a five vote margin to have the federal government manage the health care of every American"

That claim is a lie.
 
What freedoms are we losing? We're not losing anything.

Number 1) the freedom not to buy health insurance. Under the new bill anyone who does not buy health insurance will be penalized by the US government. Anyone who does not buy insurance becomes a lawbreaker. Right now the penalty is just a very large fine.

"But Section 7203 [says] – misdemeanor willful failure to pay is punishable by a fine of up to $25,000 and/or imprisonment of up to one year."

You have a choice: obey the part of the bill that forces you to buy health insurance, obey the part of the bill that forces you to pay a fine if you don't, or go to jail.

Can it be any more clear?



How many more do you want me to name? Remember the word "shall" is mentioned 3,424 times in the bill.
 
"the House of Representatives voted by a five vote margin to have the federal government manage the health care of every American"

That claim is a lie. Congress did not vote to have the federal government manage the health care of every American. It's a lie, a really stupid lie, but still a lie.
 
Well, then... quote chapter and verse why it isn't. What's a "single payer" system, anyhow?
 
If we pay for it when uninsured people go to the ER then you admit that they are getting health care. I would prefer to know how and where the money is being spent. When welfare pays for an uninsured person at the ER we know it is welfare.

Under the proposed system costs will go up and the money will be played with in some monstrous shell game so that we never know what is spent where.

But second most importantly it will cost more under the new system.

The first most important fact is that you are arguing that the new system makes it worth it for us all to lose our freedoms because we will get our money's worth. It isn't worth it for 100% of the population to loose freedom so that 13 million people without insurance, who already have health care, can then have insurance which profits those who sell insurance.

Your spin is not the facts of the case though. Richard Savage actually hit the proper note.

This whole "lose your freedom" because there's some type of National Healthcare... is the worst kind of fearmongering. There are hundreds of individual things probably thousands that we spend money on that aren't anywhere close to as much in need as a National Healthcare System.

You can continue to mislead that people are just as well off going to an Emergency Room or that that's less expensive to all of us with insurance... but it's not true. The first $1000 every insured person pays every year goes to indigent care. And it's not a good and 36 million American citizens, families, are still left without the security of health insurance and ready at any moment to lose EVERYTHING even their home to medical bills.

Your type of "freedom" is the aged and infirm living in shanty slums(Hoovervilles) or under bridges acting as beggers all across this country and little children constantly hungry moving from shelter to shelter. This was the great America "freedom" you speak of before Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, Food Stamps and the like.

Same obstrutionist Republican whine just a different time with affordable health insurance for all.

Not in this country... not in AMERICA! We can do better than that. Full steam ahead for Health Insurance Reform!
 
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