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A Failure of Nerve

Discussion in 'U.S. Politics' started by Libsmasher, Jun 3, 2008.

  1. Libsmasher

    Libsmasher Well-Known Member

    Jan 9, 2008
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    I've asked myself why so many people support Obama, a leftwing extremist with almost no credentials for the job he is seeking, hardly any experience in national government, a person who is essentially a ghetto local politician who got real lucky by being in the right place at the right time.

    The "fresh" and "change" and "new" bot words of the Koolaid Kids are dismissable out of hand.

    But I think I know what it is. When nearly everything is going to hell for people, they tend to turn to extremists who are skilled demogogues, and who tell them what they want to hear.

    What you have now is a bunch of economic issues: gas is expensive (although it's always been low compared to places like europe), food is expensive, white collar jobs are being exported following the long-ago blue collar jobs, health costs are high, people are in trouble with their mortgages.

    The problem is is that people in this country, at least since the end of WWII, but also during WWII, have always felt entitled. This is America, everything is always supposed to get better - a son will earn more, have a better job, and drive a better car than his father, etc.

    But people have never grasped that they are making undue extrapolations from a golden era. After WWII, europe and asia were destroyed. The US could make anything and sell it anywhere, because nobody else was making anything. The US also had the world's biggest market - the US itself. There was no OPEC. There was no islamofascism. China was for many years still relegating itself to third-world economic status with its socialism. The high tech of that time was strictly an american affair.

    But all this changed in well-known ways. The US thought it could "afford" all kinds of destructive policies - ecofascist tyranny, tort law piracy, an out of control judiciary, the ever-more-wretched government schools, complacence with the looting of the oil cartel, "affirmative action", an unchecked illegal alien invasion, huge government taxation and spending (there is no greed like government greed), a titanic negative trade balance.

    All these chickens are coming home to roost. While the US was busy wrecking it's own chances, other countries were rebuilding from the war, shedding self-harming policies, valuing technological innovation, developing skills, moving forward.

    Economic laws are implacable - just like laws of physics. If you are flying a plane, and it loses lift, it will crash. Likewise if the people of a country think they can coast forever on the unlikely favorable special circumstances of a particular era, and all the while adopt policies that destroy them from within, they are dreaming.

    Instead of carefully considering what has happened and is happening, people go for the quick fix. In this case, Obama.

    People need to look carefully at what got us to this juncture. The US needs to stop shooting itself in the foot, and become more competitive, more financially sound, more tecnologically innovative. Everything ultimately depends on economics, and just cruising in neutral won't work anymore. OBVIOUSLY neither will the simplistic statist solutions of government.
  2. GaiusJuliusCaesarAugustus

    GaiusJuliusCaesarAugustus Well-Known Member

    May 31, 2008
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    the real world
    I did not vote 4 obama, but I can tell you that you that he only got around half of all democratic party voters.


    is he a left wing extremist? list where he is to the left and extreme.

    if you believe everything is going to hell then you too are falling for demogoguery.:rolleyes:

    'morning in AMERICA" Ronald Reagan's 2nd campaign was based on that stuff.

    we will survive, hysterics have been with us since day one---we called them Tories-conservatives
  3. Libsmasher

    Libsmasher Well-Known Member

    Jan 9, 2008
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    And a recent Gallup poll shows him beating McCain by 5%.


    Eg, the politically savvy National Journal ranked him the most far left in the senate:


    There's no question about this.

    If the election were held tomorrow, the most leftwing person since FDR would get elected - that's a fact. By saying I'm falling for demogoguery, you are just brushing past my arguments.

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