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well Clinton was as close to that as we have had...and yet somehow the republicans found a way to make him into just short of the devil himself ...After all he had a BJ , and you know of course he killed Vince Foster and him and Hillary killed a bunch of others as well right?

Also if you want balanced budgets and Debt reduction..ok...when the republicans figure out that that may actually mean raising taxes, compromise, and also not making claims things are about debt reduction when realy they are about attacking people they don't like and people who vote more likey Dem.

Also its a very telling thing I think ...that Debt is only a issue....when Republicans don't hold the white house.