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If the whole point in something is to level some playing field that has been throughly documented as being unfair... then speaking out for or a rule allowing for a counterbalance is not a slight against the ones who benefited unfairly in the past.

In the city where I grew they enacted this "fair share" program for business. It required (by law) that minority owned businesses get a certain percent of contracts awarded by the city. What this resulted in was the city having to pay higher prices to less qualified firms simply because they had to meet a quota. I have no problem with a minority owned business doing the job, provided they are the best for the job.. I do have a problem with arbitrary quotas.

Often the counterbalances are unfair themselves in their implementation.

Absolutely! That doesn't mean some groups won't speak out for themselves... and I personally think it's good to show some diversity. But in the final analysis you try and pick just good qualified people. [/quote]

I agree, but when you set up these arbitrary quotas in some of these counterbalances, you in fact do you not often get the best most qualified people.

I am not sure many people think we are about to be overrun because Obama was elected. My problem with Obama has nothing to do with his skin, it has to do with his policies. If he puts out policies I agree with I will support them, if he doesn't I will oppose the policies.

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<blockquote data-quote="BigRob" data-source="post: 77136" data-attributes="member: 628">If the whole point in something is to level some playing field that has been&nbsp; throughly documented as being unfair... then speaking out for or a rule allowing for a counterbalance is not a slight against the ones who benefited unfairly in the past. In the city where I grew they enacted this &quot;fair share&quot; program for business.&nbsp; It required (by law) that minority owned businesses get a certain percent of contracts awarded by the city.&nbsp; What this resulted in was the city having to pay higher prices to less qualified firms simply because they had to meet a quota.&nbsp; I have no problem with a minority owned business doing the job, provided they are the best for the job.. I do have a problem with arbitrary quotas.&nbsp; Often the counterbalances are unfair themselves in their implementation.</blockquote>Absolutely! That doesn&#039;t mean some groups won&#039;t speak out for themselves... and I personally think it&#039;s good to show some diversity. But in the final analysis you try and pick just good qualified people. [/quote]I agree, but when you set up these arbitrary quotas in some of these counterbalances, you in fact do you not often get the best most qualified people.&nbsp; I am not sure many people think we are about to be overrun because Obama was elected.&nbsp; My problem with Obama has nothing to do with his skin, it has to do with his policies.&nbsp; If he puts out policies I agree with I will support them, if he doesn&#039;t I will oppose the policies.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE="BigRob, post: 77136, member: 628"] [COLOR="Navy"] If the whole point in something is to level some playing field that has been throughly documented as being unfair... then speaking out for or a rule allowing for a counterbalance is not a slight against the ones who benefited unfairly in the past.[/COLOR] In the city where I grew they enacted this "fair share" program for business. It required (by law) that minority owned businesses get a certain percent of contracts awarded by the city. What this resulted in was the city having to pay higher prices to less qualified firms simply because they had to meet a quota. I have no problem with a minority owned business doing the job, provided they are the best for the job.. I do have a problem with arbitrary quotas. Often the counterbalances are unfair themselves in their implementation. [/quote] [COLOR="Navy"]Absolutely! That doesn't mean some groups won't speak out for themselves... and I personally think it's good to show some diversity. But in the final analysis you try and pick just good qualified [I][B]people[/B][/I]. [/quote] I agree, but when you set up these arbitrary quotas in some of these counterbalances, you in fact do you not often get the best most qualified people. [/COLOR] I am not sure many people think we are about to be overrun because Obama was elected. My problem with Obama has nothing to do with his skin, it has to do with his policies. If he puts out policies I agree with I will support them, if he doesn't I will oppose the policies. [/QUOTE]

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