Lagboltz
Well-Known Member
Right now I am not arguing for or against a PIT. I am trying to understand what you are proposing as far as the ramifications of a flat tax on the lives of all Americans and the efficacy of the government.I thought you were going somewhere with that, but you weren't... that was anticlimactic.![]()
When I responded "that's fine" I was simply saying that supplemental aid of $9,000 or whatever would allow the low income family the same standard of living of what they are used to with the current PIT as long as they can get enough supplemental aid from the government to overcome their substandard income and the extra tax.
After going through the trouble of answering your last "important" question only to get, "That's fine." as a response, I get the feeling I'd just be wasting more of my time by answering all these other questions... So I'll just recap some points I've made over the course of the thread:
The Progressive Income Tax law is not fair according to the dictionary definition of the word, raising the top marginal rates will not just affect "the top 2% of the wealthiest", nor will it only affect "people making over $250k", nor will it have the causal effect of increasing revenue or GDP.
An important corollary to whole idea of a flat tax is left unresolved. How is the budget balanced and aid given to the lower classes and the current level of Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, Food Stamps, Welfare, etc. to be financed by a flat tax alone? How can we not only balance the budget, but also start paying down the debt? For the second time you didn't answer these important questions.
Secondly you ignored other important questions on three types of taxes. Let me repeat them here.
Roughly what percent flat income tax do you think will bring adequate government revenue if not 15%. Further questions are what percent flat capital gains tax do conservatives advocate if not 15%. And you mentioned wealth tax: do you think that a flat wealth tax is fair?
In short, you can't just shout "FAIR TAX" and then bury your head in the sand. You don't solve the broader problems that way. That's what all of congress is doing -- shouting differing incomplete solutions.