Epic fail in Alaska

[Stalin]

They are ringing the bells in moscow...

Russia’s reaction to Donald Trump’s summit with Vladimir Putin in Alaska has been nothing short of jubilant, with Moscow celebrating the fact that the Russian leader met his US counterpart without making concessions and now faces no sanctions despite rejecting Trump’s ceasefire demands.

“The meeting proved that negotiations are possible without preconditions,” wrote the former president Dmitry Medvedev on Telegram. He added that the summit showed that talks could continue as Russia wages war in Ukraine.


Trump entered the high-stakes summit warning “I won’t be happy if I walk away without some form of a ceasefire,” and threatening “severe consequences” if Moscow refused to cooperate.

But after a three-hour meeting with the Russian side that yielded no tangible results, Trump shelved his threats and instead said the meeting was “extremely productive”, even as Putin clung to his maximalist demands for ending the war and announced no concessions on the battlefield, where Russian forces are consolidating key gains in eastern Ukraine.

Putin on Friday demanded Ukraine withdraw from Donetsk and Luhansk as a condition for ending the war, but offered Trump a freeze along the remaining frontline, two sources with direct knowledge of the talks said.

Although Luhansk is almost entirely under Russian control, Ukraine still holds key parts of Donetsk, including the cities of Kramatorsk and Sloviansk and heavily fortified positions whose defence has cost tens of thousands of lives.

Putin told Trump that in exchange for Donetsk and Luhansk, he would halt further advances and freeze the frontline in the southern Ukrainian region of Kherson and Zaporizhzhia, where Russian forces occupy significant areas.

Russia jubilant after Trump summit as Putin reportedly demands Donetsk and Luhansk

Moscow feels it has the upper hand after talks end with no ceasefire in Ukraine and no sanctions imposed

www.theguardian.com

comrade stalin
moscow

 

[Gabriel_Bell]

There is no cease fire, there are no discussions of permissible war tactics, there is no end to the war. Shitshizpants seems to have thought that there ought to be a B2 flyover, and a co8ple of B2's were sent all the way from their only home base , the appropriately name Whiteman AFB in Missouri, with super expensive refuelings, just to decorate the event.

When it was over, Putin spoke first, and in RUSSIAN, which confused the Fox News people, who did not seem to be equipped with a translator.

A YUGE waste of time and money for nothing.

 

[mark francis]

There is no cease fire, there are no discussions of permissible war tactics, there is no end to the war. Shitshizpants seems to have thought that there ought to be a B2 flyover, and a co8ple of B2's were sent all the way from their only home base , the appropriately name Whiteman AFB in Missouri, with super expensive refuelings, just to decorate the event.

When it was over, Putin spoke first, and in RUSSIAN, which confused the Fox News people, who did not seem to be equipped with a translator.

A YUGE waste of time and money for nothing.

Butthurt democrats criticize every aspect of Trump's diplomatic negotiation with Putin, likely due to the fact that neither Brandon nor Kackles ever met with Putin nor knew what to talk about if they had.

 

[Stalin]

as always, completely wrong

another history fail from WarParty lickspittle St francis of the pentagon

Putin and Joe Biden met only once while holding the presidency – in Geneva in June 2021.

Russia was massing troops on the border with Ukraine, where large swaths of land in the east had long been occupied by Moscow-backed forces; Washington repeatedly accused Russia of cyberattacks. The Kremlin was intensifying its domestic crackdown on dissent, jailing opposition leader Alexei Navalny months earlier and harshly suppressing protests demanding his release.

Putin and Biden talked for three hours, with no breakthroughs. They exchanged expressions of mutual respect, but firmly restated their starkly different views on various issues.

They spoke again via videoconference in December 2021 as tensions heightened over Ukraine. Biden threatened sanctions if Russia invaded, and Putin demanded guarantees that Kyiv wouldn’t join NATO – something Washington and its allies said was a nonstarter.

Another phone call between the two came in February 2022, less than two weeks before the full-scale invasion. Then the high-level contacts stopped cold, with no publicly disclosed conversations between them since the invasion.

What we know about past meetings between Putin and US presidents

Bilateral meetings between Russian President Vladimir Putin and his American counterparts were a regular occurrence early in his 25-year tenure.

www.1news.co.nz

comrade stalin
moscow

 

[Gabriel_Bell]

Butthurt democrats criticize every aspect of Trump's diplomatic negotiation with Putin, likely due to the fact that neither Brandon nor Kackles ever met with Putin nor knew what to talk about if they had.

There was NO POINT for Biden to negotiate with Putin, because he knew who Putin is. And, of course, it has neve been te job of a vice president to negotiate with foreign leaders.

Shitshizpants sucks at negotiations. The world hates his guts.

 

[the annoying thing]

There is no cease fire, there are no discussions of permissible war tactics, there is no end to the war. Shitshizpants seems to have thought that there ought to be a B2 flyover, and a co8ple of B2's were sent all the way from their only home base , the appropriately name Whiteman AFB in Missouri, with super expensive refuelings, just to decorate the event.

When it was over, Putin spoke first, and in RUSSIAN, which confused the Fox News people, who did not seem to be equipped with a translator.

A YUGE waste of time and money for nothing.

huge dumb ass huge what did you exopect putin has no need for peace hes a nut bar

 

[mark francis]

Putin and Biden talked for three hours, with no breakthroughs. They exchanged expressions of mutual respect, but firmly restated their starkly different views on various issues.

No breakthroughs between Biden and Putin? Is that because Biden didn't offer Putin a bribe with kickback conditions like he did the Ayatollah?

 

[mark francis]

There was NO POINT for Biden to negotiate with Putin, because he knew who Putin is. And, of course, it has neve been te job of a vice president to negotiate with foreign leaders.

Biden knew who Putin was, which is why he hid behind Obama hoping to cover up his fear and incompetence.