Granted, Joe Biden Was Showing His Age, BUT.....

[mark francis]

The Confederacy didn't have a Democratic party son. And you really need to stop the lying.



I strongly suggest you stop repeating the lie you have done today.

Christian opposition to slavery in America is older than the US itself.

Quaker abolitionists​

Quakers in particular were early leaders in abolitionism. In 1688 Dutch Quakers in Germantown, Pennsylvania, sent an antislavery petition to the Monthly Meeting of Quakers. By 1727 British Quakers had expressed their official disapproval of the slave trade. Three Quaker abolitionists, Benjamin Lay, John Woolman, and Anthony Benezet, devoted their lives to the abolitionist effort from the 1730s to the 1760s, with Lay founding the Negro School in 1770, which would serve more than 250 pupils. In June 1783, a petition from the London Yearly Meeting and signed by over 300 Quakers was presented to Parliament protesting the slave trade.

"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_abolitionism#cite_note-11"><span>[</span>11<span>]</span></a>

Christian abolitionism in the United States​

 

[mark francis]

The Confederacy didn't have a Democratic party son. And you really need to stop the lying.

Did the original democrat party support slavery?

The History of the Democratic Party – Rooted in Slavery – Speak Out Now

speakoutsocialists.org

The Democratic Party was founded in the period after the American Revolution of 1776. One of the first major political struggles after the revolution was between the two groups of elites who had supported the revolution against Britain. The most powerful group was the large landowners from Virginia, Georgia, and the Carolinas. Their wealth came from the exploitation of Africans who had been ripped from their homes and brought to the colonies as slaves. Their plantations produced cotton and other crops, which were sold directly to Europe. They saw themselves like European nobles living on their estates with servants and imported European finery.

 

[mad1961]

Christian opposition to slavery in America is older than the US itself.

Quaker abolitionists​

Quakers in particular were early leaders in abolitionism. In 1688 Dutch Quakers in Germantown, Pennsylvania, sent an antislavery petition to the Monthly Meeting of Quakers. By 1727 British Quakers had expressed their official disapproval of the slave trade. Three Quaker abolitionists, Benjamin Lay, John Woolman, and Anthony Benezet, devoted their lives to the abolitionist effort from the 1730s to the 1760s, with Lay founding the Negro School in 1770, which would serve more than 250 pupils. In June 1783, a petition from the London Yearly Meeting and signed by over 300 Quakers was presented to Parliament protesting the slave trade.

"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_abolitionism#cite_note-11"><span>[</span>11<span>]</span></a>

Christian abolitionism in the United States​

Christianity was the excuse for slavery. OK? Stop being white thinking you can tell somebody black about slavery.

How Christian Slaveholders Used the Bible to Justify Slavery

Read an excerpt from 'The Great Stain: Witnessing American Slavery' by Noel Rae

time.com

The Uncomfortable Truth: How Christianity Both Supported and Fought Against Slavery - History Collection

Christianity's relationship with slavery reveals a complex historical tension. The same faith that preached love and equality was twisted to justify the enslavement of millions, while also providing the moral foundation for abolition movements. This paradox shaped societies across the Americas...

historycollection.com

 

[mark francis]

Christianity was the excuse for slavery. OK? Stop being white thinking you can tell somebody black about slavery.

How Christian Slaveholders Used the Bible to Justify Slavery

Read an excerpt from 'The Great Stain: Witnessing American Slavery' by Noel Rae

time.com

The Uncomfortable Truth: How Christianity Both Supported and Fought Against Slavery - History Collection

Christianity's relationship with slavery reveals a complex historical tension. The same faith that preached love and equality was twisted to justify the enslavement of millions, while also providing the moral foundation for abolition movements. This paradox shaped societies across the Americas...

historycollection.com

Surely you do not really believe Christian abolitionists were responsible for establishing slavery in America. Why would you believe that nonsense, because most early Christian abolitionists were white? Do you think the modern US government should make reparation payments to all modern whites who lost relatives and property in the Civil War fighting to free slaves?

 

[mad1961]

Surely you do not really believe Christian abolitionists were responsible for establishing slavery in America. Why would you believe that nonsense, because most early Christian abolitionists were white? Do you think the modern US government should make reparation payments to all modern whites who lost relatives and property in the Civil War fighting to free slaves?

The facts show what happened. White Christian nationalism is not Christianity. Whites should not get reparations because whites have been given land and direct economic assistance on several occasions from the government, while blacks were denied the same thing. Why in the world would you think modern whites would deserve reparations for the Civil War? White descendants of Confederate soldiers got reparations as well as white descendants of Union soldiers. The fact that Confederate soldiers got reparations while blacks never have is a slap in the face. We demand reparations that include continuing harm that is perpetrated against us by whites such as yourself.

Here is another lesson for you so that you stop trying that argument about modern reparations

I am quite sure no one living in 1980 was alive when the U.S. government made the Fort Laramie treaty with the Sioux Nation or were participants in Custers violation of that treaty. Nor were they alive when President Grant decided it was OK to let settlers and people prospecting for gold tresspass into land promised to the Sioux thereby violating the treaty. No one in 1980 was alive when the U.S. government decided to take the land from the Sioux by military force. No one in 1980 was alive when the U.S. government decided to cut off supplies they promised the Sioux as condition for their surrender after whipping the U.S. Army at The Battle of Little Bighorn. But in 1980, the government of the United States decided reparations were due to the Sioux Nation for what was done to them in the 1800’s. They awarded the Sioux nation 105 million dollars..

United States v. Sioux Nation of Indians :: 448 U.S. 371 (1980) :: Justia US Supreme Court Center, https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/448/371/

 

[mark francis]

The facts show what happened. White Christian nationalism is not Christianity. Whites should not get reparations because whites have been given land and direct economic assistance on several occasions from the government, while blacks were denied the same thing. Why in the world would you think modern whites would deserve reparations for the Civil War? White descendants of Confederate soldiers got reparations as well as white descendants of Union soldiers. The fact that Confederate soldiers got reparations while blacks never have is a slap in the face. We demand reparations that include continuing harm that is perpetrated against us by whites such as yourself.

Here is another lesson for you so that you stop trying that argument about modern reparations

I am quite sure no one living in 1980 was alive when the U.S. government made the Fort Laramie treaty with the Sioux Nation or were participants in Custers violation of that treaty. Nor were they alive when President Grant decided it was OK to let settlers and people prospecting for gold tresspass into land promised to the Sioux thereby violating the treaty. No one in 1980 was alive when the U.S. government decided to take the land from the Sioux by military force. No one in 1980 was alive when the U.S. government decided to cut off supplies they promised the Sioux as condition for their surrender after whipping the U.S. Army at The Battle of Little Bighorn. But in 1980, the government of the United States decided reparations were due to the Sioux Nation for what was done to them in the 1800’s. They awarded the Sioux nation 105 million dollars..

United States v. Sioux Nation of Indians :: 448 U.S. 371 (1980) :: Justia US Supreme Court Center, https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/448/371/

I'm glad to hear you say that white supremacists are not good examples of Christians if Christians at all. You are wrong in saying white descendants of dead soldiers who sacrificed their lives and property to free the slaves were compensated. And blacks were given property after the Civil War, so you are wrong about that also.

 

[mad1961]

I'm glad to hear you say that white supremacists are not good examples of Christians if Christians at all. You are wrong in saying white descendants of dead soldiers who sacrificed their lives and property to free the slaves were compensated. And blacks were given property after the Civil War, so you are wrong about that also.

Whites like you need to stop this shit. Whites are not owed any gratitude for freeing people who never should have been slaves in the first place. If I were raping your wife, and then decided to stop, you would never accept me telling you how you should be grateful to me because I stopped raping your wife.

Secondly, Special Field Order 15 and Circular 13 were terminated by Andrew Johnson and the land was returned to the white former slaveowners.

Third. Lincoln paid white slveowners 900 dollars per slave for the slaves they lost due to emancipation. Those are reparations, and that 900 dollars is the equivalent of nearly $23,000 per person today.

Fourth, white Union and Confederate soldiers, along with their descendants, were paid reparations. The last known payment was made in 2017. So again, you need to stop repeating this racist gibberish because it is all bs.

 

[mad1961]

Did the original democrat party support slavery?

The History of the Democratic Party – Rooted in Slavery – Speak Out Now

speakoutsocialists.org

The Democratic Party was founded in the period after the American Revolution of 1776. One of the first major political struggles after the revolution was between the two groups of elites who had supported the revolution against Britain. The most powerful group was the large landowners from Virginia, Georgia, and the Carolinas. Their wealth came from the exploitation of Africans who had been ripped from their homes and brought to the colonies as slaves. Their plantations produced cotton and other crops, which were sold directly to Europe. They saw themselves like European nobles living on their estates with servants and imported European finery.

Republicans authored an amendment to officially make slavery a constitutionally protected activity. The Republican Party is the party of The Corwin Amendment that would have cemented slavery as a constitutional right.

https://www.thoughtco.com/corwin-amendment-slavery-and-lincoln-4160928

 

[mark francis]

Whites like you need to stop this shit. Whites are not owed any gratitude for freeing people who never should have been slaves in the first place. If I were raping your wife, and then decided to stop, you would never accept me telling you how you should be grateful to me because I stopped raping your wife.

I see. You think blacks are right to hate whites whose ancestors sacrificed everything to free the slaves because whites have an inferior skin color?

 

[mark francis]

Republicans authored an amendment to officially make slavery a constitutionally protected activity. The Republican Party is the party of The Corwin Amendment that would have cemented slavery as a constitutional right.

https://www.thoughtco.com/corwin-amendment-slavery-and-lincoln-4160928

Today we call republicans 'Rhinos' who propose stupid or wicked laws in order to appease democrats and be thought of as 'bi-partisan'.

 

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"Presidunce Spanky has looked to the marble finishes and hefty price tag of the Federal Reserve headquarters to claim grounds to fire Chair Jerome Powell, with whom he has tussled for years over interest rates. But, the extensive use of marble in the building is, at least in part, the result of policies backed by Trump himself."

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Trump must have come to his senses and recognized that $2 billion to renovate the Federal Reserve is clearly waste and fraud.