How about a theological debate? That'd be fun

[mark francis]

Shitshizpants is the one that launched this unconstitutional war, which has caused death ab destruction, and his vindictive refusal to fund Obamacare will cause more death of American citizens than Iran could.

How could any follower of Jesus support this war? It is a clear violation of the United Nations Charter.

Luke 22:36
Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.

 

[Gabriel_Bell]

Luke 22:36
Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.

Oh, yeah? Precisely how many of Jesus' followers followed this advice? How many sold their clothes to buy swords? So far as I know, Judas Iscariot was the only armed disciple, and he stabbed no Romans.

Much of the Bible is bogus nonsense just like this. Did Jesus, the Prince of Peace say this? We only know that someone that was known as "Luke" says he said it.

But WhoTF was Luke? Luke is NOT a Hebrew name, it is a Roman name, and Luke wrote in Greek. What language did Jesus speak? Not Latin, not Greek, or even Hebrew, but Aramaic

 

[Phoenix68]

Luke 22:36
Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.

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Yeah....ya' never can tell when someone needs murdered!!!
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[Gabriel_Bell]

Again, how many followers sold their clothes and bought swords? There is no mention that any disciple USED a sword...

 

[saltydancindave]

Disease, destruction and death are the result of rebellion against God, commonly exhibited among those who side with and support the ungodly in public affairs.

While the SCOTUS "one nation under God" rewards with a baseball cap for work on fingerprint IDing there's that Christiananality pedophilia Federal Lynching KKKidnapping churchstate of hate drug trafficking fiefdom of no good deed goes unpunished enforcement since there was no Arab "death to the infidels" nor threatening of those burning US Constitution Bill of Rights arsonists Bush's.........

 

[Gabriel_Bell]

Again, how many followers sold their clothes and bought swords? There is no mention that any disciple USED a sword...

Why would Jesus have told anyone to do this? It is not behavior befitting the "Prince of Peace".

 

[mark francis]

Again, how many followers sold their clothes and bought swords? There is no mention that any disciple USED a sword...

Why would Jesus have told anyone to do this? It is not behavior befitting the "Prince of Peace".

We are not told how many early followers of Jesus actually believed and obeyed His instructions.

 

[Gabriel_Bell]

We are not told how many early followers of Jesus actually believed and obeyed His instructions.

Why don't the Gospels tell us who sold their clothes and bought swords? Was is even possible that some article of clothing in those times could bring in enough money to purchase a decent sword? It's not like expensive designer fashion was a thing among the Galilean peasants Jesus preached to.

What would a disciple have done with his sword? Roman soldiers were trained swordmen. A swordfight between a Roman Centurion and an untrained disciple would have been a Godzilla vs. Bambi affair. Think about it: what id Jesus expect to happen when he said sell your clothes and buy a sword? It is pretty clear that no Jesus follower was reported as having had a sword fight with anyone.

 

[mark francis]

Why don't the Gospels tell us who sold their clothes and bought swords? Was is even possible that some article of clothing in those times could bring in enough money to purchase a decent sword? It's not like expensive designer fashion was a thing among the Galilean peasants Jesus preached to.

What would a disciple have done with his sword? Roman soldiers were trained swordmen. A swordfight between a Roman Centurion and an untrained disciple would have been a Godzilla vs. Bambi affair. Think about it: what id Jesus expect to happen when he said sell your clothes and buy a sword? It is pretty clear that no Jesus follower was reported as having had a sword fight with anyone.

You are asking a human instead of God and you are asking the wrong questions.

 

[Gabriel_Bell]

You are asking a human instead of God and you are asking the wrong questions.

There is no way to ask "God", being as "God" is mute. And no, those are TOTALLY VALID questions.
Here they are again:
Why don't the Gospels tell us who sold their clothes and bought swords? Was is even possible that some article of clothing in those times could bring in enough money to purchase a decent sword? It's not like expensive designer fashion was a thing among the Galilean peasants Jesus preached to.

What would a disciple have done with his sword? Roman soldiers were trained swordmen. A swordfight between a Roman Centurion and an untrained disciple would have been a Godzilla vs. Bambi affair. Think about it: what id Jesus expect to happen when he said sell your clothes and buy a sword? It is pretty clear that no Jesus follower was reported as having had a sword fight with anyone.

 

[mark francis]

There is no way to ask "God", being as "God" is mute. And no, those are TOTALLY VALID questions.
Here they are again:
Why don't the Gospels tell us who sold their clothes and bought swords? Was is even possible that some article of clothing in those times could bring in enough money to purchase a decent sword? It's not like expensive designer fashion was a thing among the Galilean peasants Jesus preached to.

What would a disciple have done with his sword? Roman soldiers were trained swordmen. A swordfight between a Roman Centurion and an untrained disciple would have been a Godzilla vs. Bambi affair. Think about it: what id Jesus expect to happen when he said sell your clothes and buy a sword? It is pretty clear that no Jesus follower was reported as having had a sword fight with anyone.

Your questions demonstrate a disrespect for God and the Bible that does not inspire any hope of profitable debate with Bible believing Christians.

 

[Gabriel_Bell]

Your questions demonstrate a disrespect for God and the Bible that does not inspire any hope of profitable debate with Bible believing Christians.

Since when is there a profit motive in debating the true nature of the universe?

I see discussing such things to be intellectually stimulating. A couple of semesters, I taught philosophy. I found that to be fun.

I think that the Biblical character called "God" has not shown much respect for humans. He was a real bastard to Job, and then he exterminated almost every human on the planet. And he has this apparent need for people constantly tell him how great he is and worship him. So what respect should I have for such a critter?

The personality of "God" seems to be rather defective. If I met a fellow human with a similar personality, I would avoid him for sure.

 

[mark francis]

Since when is there a profit motive in debating the true nature of the universe?

I see discussing such things to be intellectually stimulating. A couple of semesters, I taught philosophy. I found that to be fun.

I think that the Biblical character called "God" has not shown much respect for humans. He was a real bastard to Job, and then he exterminated almost every human on the planet. And he has this apparent need for people constantly tell him how great he is and worship him. So what respect should I have for such a critter?

The personality of "God" seems to be rather defective. If I met a fellow human with a similar personality, I would avoid him for sure.

Do you slander the God you know exists or do you spend hours slandering something you don't believe even exists?

 

[Gabriel_Bell]

Do you slander the God you know exists or do you spend hours slandering something you don't believe even exists?

Why should you care? You are the ijit claiming that the Universe is 6000 years old and that a talking snake is responsible for all that is wrong in the Universe.

 

[mark francis]

Why should you care? You are the ijit claiming that the Universe is 6000 years old and that a talking snake is responsible for all that is wrong in the Universe.

Deluded Darwinists believe humans first evolved from dumb animal ancestors as blacks in Africa hundreds of thousands of years ago in spite of the fact that archaeological evidence shows the oldest evidence of human civilization is no older than 20,000 years.

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10 Oldest Civilizations in the World (Updated 2026)​

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The earliest human-like species or hominid appeared for the first time around about 2 million years ago. Early homo sapiens or modern humans appeared in Africa around 20,000 years ago.