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First of all you're missing the point here.  Statistics is simply a prediction of the possibility of an occurrence in terms of likelihood or unlikelihood approaching but not equaling infinity.  (since infinity represents the number of occurrences in which would have to be performed to prove or negate a 100%/0% statistic)   given this,  and common knowledge that says there ARE NO DEFINITES PERIOD,  we as humans have created an abstraction that allows us to say "it won't happen"  since the chances of it not occurring greatly outweigh that in which they should occur.  I'm saying it won't happen,  just as I very well won't win the lottery,  sure I COULD,  but we can rest assured without much worry that I shalln't...if I do,  I'll buy you platinum gilded bible with a cute little hammer to thump it with.




this quote contains 100% ad hominem (not a statistic,  a fact just as:),  I shall not reply with anything except,  yes I do know 100% I never have have impregnated someone.




Is that the case.   I'll not deny some of what you say,  I don't care where "marriage" came from,  the history behind it from 1 of a thousand cultures that exist in the world.   Love is the undeniable bond to a marriage,  kids obviously by the fact that only around 24% of women are married before their first child,  have no bearing on your assumption that current day marriage is based on the intent to procreate.   I don't care in the slightest about your "moral" idealism concerning "what marriage should be"   that moral elitism is why so many marriages end in divorce....The unhappy relationship marrying due to kids rather than for love increases this incidence exponentially from the number of divorces we'd see if that was never the case.   Divorce is pretty hard on kids too you know.  When I marry it will be because I love her,  not because I'm ready to pop out little roos...


 

Plenty of kids live today without marriage,  in fact I'd postulate a majority do.     Sure a couple in love can (I like the quotes...snarky)   live together forever without marriage.  But why NOT get married to express that love and bring the relationship to the ultimate affirmation of love;  marriage.  Marriage in which love is not the primary reasoning is quite likely to fail with a much worse outcome for the kids than not. In light of this,  I must dispute your assertion.  


 

Ad hominem abound.




Wrong and wrong.   First of all the CDC says no such thing (not in the context you're considering)  Condom failure rates of 15-20% are for "typical-improperly used condoms for a static sexual relationship over the course of a year"   This does NOT mean that every condom has a 17% chance of failing,  much much less.   Let's take the statistic that couples living together have sex around 146 times a year on average,   now this failure statistic is a 17 out of a 100 women becoming pregnant,   if those 100 women are couples who have sex on average (146 times a year) 17 failures occurred out of the entire condom usage over the determinant year,  (which resulted in 17 pregnancies)  so 146 x 100 is 14,600 this equates to 17:14600 %0.12 overall failure rate (99.88%) effective (note: 12%,  this is condom usage which is considered "typical"  which is defined as usage that is often not superb,  such as failure to withdraw and remove correctly on completion of the act,  etc.)   with perfect usage (always following the correct usage 100% of the time)  it's a 3:100 pregnancy rate.   thus 3:14600 becomes a failure rate PER condom of %0.02 or 99.98% protection.  If you care to converge the statistics with progesterone/estrogen birthcontrol go right ahead,  no need for me to further my point. 



wow,  ad hominem after ad hominem... do you think attacking my integrity by supposing that someone may think me "unworthy"  or that I'm foolish for trusting those I still to this day consider very good friends?   tsk tsk...it is you that are not very good at debate.   I do however crown you King of Ad Hominem.


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