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Stealing lines from another great Jewish comedian

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lv3pm0veWQI

Binny : All I want is peace

I don't want war! All I want is peace...peace...peace...!
A little piece of Syria,
A little piece of Gaza,
A big piece of Jordan
And Egypt, perchance!
A little slice of Lebanon
And all that that entails,
And then a bit of England, Scotland, Ireland and Wales!"
 
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Stealing lines from another great Jewish comedian

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lv3pm0veWQI

Binny : All I want is peace

I don't want war! All I want is peace...peace...peace...!
A little piece of Syria,
A little piece of Gaza,
A big piece of Jordan
And Egypt, perchance!
A little slice of Lebanon
And all that that entails,
And then a bit of England, Scotland, Ireland and Wales!"

I guess the '67 war was a warning to the Arabs............Don't mess with Israel. If the Arabs had not LOST the '67 war, they would not have lost any real estate.

You, of all people, should know that, "Komrade" Stalin. Your hero, Josef, conquered and enslaved many countries, killed MILLIONS of people, his own and from other countries, and imprisoned millions more.
 
I guess the '67 war was a warning to the Arabs............Don't mess with Israel.
Israel became independent on May 14, 1948. On May 15, the Arabs invaded. Israel hastily scraped together an army and air force, and beat back its assailants (the "War of Independence").

In 1956, Egypt nationalized the Suez Canal, resulting in hostilities from England and France (the "Suez Crisis"). Israel came into that conflict (not really big enough to be called a "war") as an ally of England and France, who did most of the fighting, and Egypt lost again.

In 1967, Egypt and Syria began the chants of "Throw all the Jews into the sea" again, and massed 2,000 tanks and armored vehicles, and hundreds of thousands of armed troops and heavy guns, around Israel on all sides. Israel was smaller than Vermont at the time. This time Israel didn't wait for the inevitable, but struck first, destroying most of the surrounding forces and chasing the remnants of Egypt's armies all the way to the Suez Canal. This time it took Israel just six days to defeat the combined forces of hostile countries twenty times her size (the "Six-Day War").

After driving out all hostile forces in 1967, Israel occupied the Gaza Strip and the entire Sinai Peninsula between Israel and Egypt (tripling Israel's size), and the West Bank and Golan Heights between Israel and Syria/Jordan, to provide for defensible areas between them and their attackers. In later negotiations, Israel gave the Sinai back to Egypt in exchange for a promise of peace, but kept the high ground from which Syria had been firing artillery shells into Israeli villages below for years.

The Arab countries still didn't take the hint, and attacked yet again in 1973. They achieved surprise by attacking on Yom Kippur, Israel's holiest holiday, and made significant inroads before Israel marshaled its forces and went on the offensive. This time it took Israel less than three weeks to decisively defeat the vastly more numerous invaders (the "Yom Kippur War").

If the Arabs had not LOST the '67 war, they would not have lost any real estate.
People keep forgetting that one of the results of a war, is that territory changes hands. The Arabs keep screaming for the return of Gaza, the West Bank, and Golan Heights, forgetting that they lost them as a result of their own hostile actions and losing the wars they started against Israel.

Don't like to lose territory? Don't threaten or attack your neighbors who didn't threaten you. Especially neighbors who can kick your ass.

Map from Wikipedia:

399px-Yom_Kippur_War_map-2.png
 
Israel became independent on May 14, 1948. On May 15, the Arabs invaded. Israel hastily scraped together an army and air force, and beat back its assailants (the "War of Independence").

In 1956, Egypt nationalized the Suez Canal, resulting in hostilities from England and France (the "Suez Crisis"). Israel came into that conflict (not really big enough to be called a "war") as an ally of England and France, who did most of the fighting, and Egypt lost again.

In 1967, Egypt and Syria began the chants of "Throw all the Jews into the sea" again, and massed 2,000 tanks and armored vehicles, and hundreds of thousands of armed troops and heavy guns, around Israel on all sides. Israel was smaller than Vermont at the time. This time Israel didn't wait for the inevitable, but struck first, destroying most of the surrounding forces and chasing the remnants of Egypt's armies all the way to the Suez Canal. This time it took Israel just six days to defeat the combined forces of hostile countries twenty times her size (the "Six-Day War").

After driving out all hostile forces in 1967, Israel occupied the Gaza Strip and the entire Sinai Peninsula between Israel and Egypt (tripling Israel's size), and the West Bank and Golan Heights between Israel and Syria/Jordan, to provide for defensible areas between them and their attackers. In later negotiations, Israel gave the Sinai back to Egypt in exchange for a promise of peace, but kept the high ground from which Syria had been firing artillery shells into Israeli villages below for years.

The Arab countries still didn't take the hint, and attacked yet again in 1973. They achieved surprise by attacking on Yom Kippur, Israel's holiest holiday, and made significant inroads before Israel marshaled its forces and went on the offensive. This time it took Israel less than three weeks to decisively defeat the vastly more numerous invaders (the "Yom Kippur War").


People keep forgetting that one of the results of a war, is that territory changes hands. The Arabs keep screaming for the return of Gaza, the West Bank, and Golan Heights, forgetting that they lost them as a result of their own hostile actions and losing the wars they started against Israel.

Don't like to lose terrritory? Don't threaten or attack your neighbors when they didn't threaten you. Especially neighbors who can kick your ass.

399px-Yom_Kippur_War_map-2.png

A great history lesson for the Jew-haters/Obama lovers (sorry for the redundancy) in this forum. Well done, "L-A".
 
All very beguiling, but a very lop-sided view of the history of the borders.

For Arabs, the 1947 hostilities are known as the Nakba - the catastrophe.

The normal zionist line is that after independence, the Arab armies gathered for the kill and the Palestinians left to allow the massacre of the Jews.

No serious historian believes this.

For a start, the Jordanian army fought alongside the Israelis. Jordan was a puppet kingdom create to recompense the Hussein family for the loss of the guardianship of the shrines at Mecca and Medina.

Secondly, the Palestinians were driven of the land by armed terrorist gangs.
I know this because SHimon Tzabar, one of my best friends in London, was a member of three terrorist gangs who described what he did in detail.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shimon_tzabar

He left Israel in 1967 for exile in London, although he made occasional visits back to Palestine, chiefly to put pn his play "Some Crime Some punishment",
a black comedy in which Hitler returns from Argentina to Israel to take his medicine but nobody wants to know because his legacy serves the Knesset so well.

My friends, you have all been suckedin badly.

Israel is a squalid apartheid state that is just another european colonial land grab - religion has very little to do with it. There are many Jews who hate the state of Israel because only God can create Israel. The current state is, literally, a blasphemy.
 
more on SHimon Tzabar

"...The 1967 war was of course pivotal in the modern history of the Middle East. It was also pivotal in Shimon’s life. Less than a year after the war, he went into self-imposed political exile in England, where he died 39 years later.

Not long before leaving Israel, Shimon was the main mover behind the first public call against the occupation (“Let us get out of the occupied territories immediately”) to reach a wide audience in Israel, published as an advertisement in Ha’aretz on 22 September 1967. Reading that statement many years later, quite a few people have remarked that it was prophetic. But Shimon and the other 11 signatories did not possess supernatural clairvoyance. What was needed was clarity of political vision – and this quality was remarkably rare in the Israel of that time.

The decade preceding the 1967 war was the period in which the Israeli–Arab conflict was at its most quiescent, almost dormant. In the Suez War of October 1956, Israel had pounced, showing its expansionist claws in a bid to annex the Sinai Peninsula and the Gaza Strip, which Prime Minister David Ben-Gurion hastened to declare parts of the “Third Kingdom of Israel”. But massive international pressure soon compelled Israel to withdraw back to its 1949 Armistice lines.

The general public soon forgot all about that episode. Israel seemed to be a more or less normal nation state, which just happens to have an unresolved border conflict with its neighbours. The basic nature of Israel as a Zionist state – not only a product of the Zionist colonization project, but also a tool for its further extension and expansion – seemed to recede into the background, and tended to be ignored or regarded as no longer relevant.

Of course, this was just an illusion. The whole of Israel’s domestic and foreign policy was in fact determined by its basic nature as a settlers’ state, actively engaged in an ongoing process of colonization. But so long as this involved a myriad of routine acts and practices rather than major moves, the common denominator of all these policies, the Zionist colonizing drive, could easily be ignored or denied.

So the majority of Israelis – like public opinion in the West – could easily be misled about the causes and aims of the 1967 war. Exploiting Nasser’s disastrous tactical errors, the Israeli government was able to fool almost all Israelis (as well as public opinion in the West) and present the war as one of Israeli self-defence.

Shimon was among the small minority of Israelis who could see through this propaganda, because he had not lost sight of the true nature of Israel as a Zionist settlers’ state. He gauged correctly the expansionist drive behind the war defensive façade, and was able to foresee clearly its long-term consequences. (His views on this issue were close to those of the socialist organization Matzpen; so it is no accident that four of the 12 signatories of the 22 September call were Matzpen members.)
Shimon also understood that Israel’s aggression and expansionism was made possible and encouraged by its role as a junior partner and local enforcer of Western imperial domination of the Middle East region. The struggle against Israeli occupation, colonization and annexationism therefore had a vital international dimension: progressive public opinion in the West had to be weaned away from its indulgent sentimental pro-Israeli bias.

So his going into exile was not merely an individual act of protest, or an expression of personal exasperation and disgust with the chauvinist intoxication of Israeli society; it was a calculated move to fight against the new Israeli empire by doing its dirty washing abroad, in full public view.

His main weapon in this fight was literary and graphic satire, at which he excelled..."

http://www.israelimperialnews.org/iin02.htm

Comrade Stalin
 
All very beguiling, but a very lop-sided view of the history of the borders.

For Arabs, the 1947 hostilities are known as the Nakba - the catastrophe.

The normal zionist line is that after independence, the Arab armies gathered for the kill and the Palestinians left to allow the massacre of the Jews.

No serious historian believes this.

For a start, the Jordanian army fought alongside the Israelis. Jordan was a puppet kingdom create to recompense the Hussein family for the loss of the guardianship of the shrines at Mecca and Medina.

Secondly, the Palestinians were driven of the land by armed terrorist gangs.
I know this because SHimon Tzabar, one of my best friends in London, was a member of three terrorist gangs who described what he did in detail.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shimon_tzabar

He left Israel in 1967 for exile in London, although he made occasional visits back to Palestine, chiefly to put pn his play "Some Crime Some punishment",
a black comedy in which Hitler returns from Argentina to Israel to take his medicine but nobody wants to know because his legacy serves the Knesset so well.

My friends, you have all been suckedin badly.

Israel is a squalid apartheid state that is just another european colonial land grab - religion has very little to do with it. There are many Jews who hate the state of Israel because only God can create Israel. The current state is, literally, a blasphemy.

OK, Yasser Arafat, Jr., we get it. You hate Jews, and you would like to see the destruction of Israel.

Too bad you are historically challenged. Jews have been a large part of middle-eastern history for centuries.

You really should be kept under surveillance. At least you are living up to your forum name.
 
You really should be kept under surveillance.

How do you know that I am not under bsurveillance.

I suppose you are one of those people who believes in freedom of speech.

But only the speech that you believe in.

Comrade Stalin
 
The normal zionist line is that after independence, the Arab armies gathered for the kill and the Palestinians left to allow the massacre of the Jews.

No serious historian believes this.

For a start,

I often see this tactic.

When I describe historical events, someone who doesn't like it announces something different from what I said, then they announce that their description isn't accurate, and try to pretend that I'm the one who was wrong.

It's a strange form of Orwell's "doublethink". Almost amounts to "triplethink", in fact.

The twists that some leftists bend themselves into, to try to pretend their ideas are right, can be mind-boggling at times.
 
I often see this tactic.

When I describe historical events, someone who doesn't like it announces something different from what I said, then they announce that their description isn't accurate, and try to pretend that I'm the one who was wrong.

It's a strange form of Orwell's "doublethink". Almost amounts to "triplethink", in fact.

The twists that some leftists bend themselves into, to try to pretend their ideas are right, can be mind-boggling at times.

The way you are writing, it is like no-one is allowed to have an opinion different to yours without being devious or wrong

Here is a novel idea - the Arab forces - it is a bit of a stretch to call the armies - intervened to protect their fellow muslims. These are the people who fought alongside T.E. Lawrence and were betrayed by the British.

Comrade Stalin
 
The way you are writing, it is like no-one is allowed to have an opinion different to yours without being devious or wrong

And when their tactic doesn't work... why, they simply try it again. :rolleyes:

Pretty limited range of thought among these leftists. My sympathies.
 
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I often see this tactic.

When I describe historical events, someone who doesn't like it announces something different from what I said, then they announce that their description isn't accurate, and try to pretend that I'm the one who was wrong.

It's a strange form of Orwell's "doublethink". Almost amounts to "triplethink", in fact.

The twists that some leftists bend themselves into, to try to pretend their ideas are right, can be mind-boggling at times.

I like it. The lefties have "pretzel brains". :D
 
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