Obama releases the long form

[Hobo1]

But it is not a win-win for him. He hurts the party as the whole, and alienates the voters that Republicans are going to need to actually win in 2012.

At best he fired up a base that was already fired up, but in the process he has made himself look ridiculous (and by extension allow all Republicans to be painted that way) to independents...all while firing up Democrats.

No one except die hard Republicans cares about Obama's grades. People care about the economy. As long as Trump (ie Republicans) continue to waste time talking about Obama's birth certificate and college grades, it is more time that the Democrats get to take control of the issues that will actually matter in the upcoming election.

How did that work out for the McCain/Palin ticket?

I tend to be Independent and I am not turned off. I know what the other Repubs and Dems are like - wimps. Only Paul Ryan, with his dramatic budget cutting plan has attracted my attention. It has a lot of flaws, but it is bold thinking for difficult times. I know Trump is grandstanding. It is his style and it gets attention. But he is not afraid to offend anyone if he thinks he is right. And he will explain his thinking with full force and clarity.

We aren't going to agree about this, but he doesn't scare me or make me believe he is going to hurt the Republicans.

 

[GenSeneca]

I could be wrong.

Neither of us are wrong... To you, Obama sounds more articulate than Bush, to me, Obama doesn't sound any more articulate than Bush. Its purely subjective. I don't mind southern accents but I understand how some people automatically hear a southern accent and think the person speaking is a "dullard". While I consider such stereotyping and generalizing to be bigoted, it seems to be perfectly acceptable to most people.

If the non outlandish candidates get all of the attention, Romney would be the only one we'd hear about.

The media will focus on the best of the Democrats and the worst of the Republicans, that's just the way it is whether you see it or not.

 

[Rick]

In addition, Rick must have some sort of insider information as to what would have happened if the Bay Of Pigs had not failed. Or maybe he is just psychic?

Apparently Rick must believe that the USSR would have just ignored the overthrow of one of their communist satellite countries, and done nothing to respond to "U.S. aggression" in Cuba.

OK. I guess I must have missed that history class.

So now you're gossiping about my posts instead of rebutting them? It didn't take a psychic to see what would have happened if the cuban patriots had succeeded - that would have been the end of dictatorship in cuba, plus their many attempts at spreading marxism in south america and africa that were yet to come.

Also, you are VERY confused about cuban history -- cuba didn't become a soviet satellite till >>>AFTER<<< the bay of pigs - the soviets didn't have anything to do with them before.

 

[Rick]

Yes, me too.

And for me, it was news, not history.

You're right: Attacking Cuba would have been one thing, attacking the Soviet Union, of which Cuba was a part at the time, quite another.

Cuba was never "part of the soviet union", and nobody suggested attacking the soviet union.

 

[Stalin]

Proof? (This should be good! )

A look at their early life should be illiuminating

First, Bush II

"..Bush attended Yale University from 1964 to 1968, graduating with a Bachelor of Arts degree in history...He characterized himself as an average student.

Beginning in the fall of 1973, Bush attended the Harvard Business School, where he earned an MBA. He is the only U.S. President to have earned an MBA

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_W._Bush

Now Obama

"..in 1981 he transferred to Columbia University in New York City, where he majored in political science with a specialty in international relations[24] and graduated with a B.A. in 1983. He worked for a year at the Business International Corporation,[25] then at the New York Public Interest Research Group

n late 1988, Obama entered Harvard Law School. He was selected as an editor of the Harvard Law Review at the end of his first year,[33] and president of the journal in his second year.[29][34] During his summers, he returned to Chicago, where he worked as a summer associate at the law firms of Sidley Austin in 1989 and Hopkins & Sutter in 1990.[35] After graduating with a Juris Doctor (J.D.) magna cum laude[36] from Harvard in 1991, he returned to Chicago..."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_obama

Comrade Stalin

 

[Rick]

A look at their early life should be illiuminating

First, Bush II

"..Bush attended Yale University from 1964 to 1968, graduating with a Bachelor of Arts degree in history...He characterized himself as an average student.

Beginning in the fall of 1973, Bush attended the Harvard Business School, where he earned an MBA. He is the only U.S. President to have earned an MBA

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_W._Bush

Now Obama

"..in 1981 he transferred to Columbia University in New York City, where he majored in political science with a specialty in international relations[24] and graduated with a B.A. in 1983. He worked for a year at the Business International Corporation,[25] then at the New York Public Interest Research Group

n late 1988, Obama entered Harvard Law School. He was selected as an editor of the Harvard Law Review at the end of his first year,[33] and president of the journal in his second year.[29][34] During his summers, he returned to Chicago, where he worked as a summer associate at the law firms of Sidley Austin in 1989 and Hopkins & Sutter in 1990.[35] After graduating with a Juris Doctor (J.D.) magna cum laude[36] from Harvard in 1991, he returned to Chicago..."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_obama

Comrade Stalin

You've "illuminated" only standard obozo PR BS. As already explained by me in this thread, obozo was chosen head of the Review as "Miss Congeniality" - he was friendly with everyone and posed no threat to either of the intellectual camps contending on the Review, since he had no intellect.

His undergrad major, poly sci, is notorious as the least intellectually demanding major in college. His law school specialty, constitutional law, likewise is basically "super poly sci". Graduating magna cum laude, based on GPA, is no biggie when your major was akin to basket weaving 101.

Harvard Law has an "affirmative action" program, as well as minority quotas for the Review, which you will see by visiting their web site - it's clear how he got in. Obozo, published NO academic papers ever, a first for the head of ANY US academic journal. (By contrast, >>>I<<< have four such publications, and they're in science.)

Obozo has never published his LSATs or grade transcripts, so you have no basis for comparing him with Bush. After Trump's just recent call to release them, a whitehouse spoikesman refused to comment. Why? What are they afraid of?

In sum, it's clear that obozo, like many blacks of his generation, has skidded through life on "affirmative action" and in his case billions of dollars of free publicity by a worshipful lib media, and that there is no evidence of his supposed intellect, and after two years as president, and plenty of evidence to the contrary.

 

[BigRob]

A look at their early life should be illiuminating

First, Bush II

"..Bush attended Yale University from 1964 to 1968, graduating with a Bachelor of Arts degree in history...He characterized himself as an average student.

Beginning in the fall of 1973, Bush attended the Harvard Business School, where he earned an MBA. He is the only U.S. President to have earned an MBA

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_W._Bush

Now Obama

"..in 1981 he transferred to Columbia University in New York City, where he majored in political science with a specialty in international relations[24] and graduated with a B.A. in 1983. He worked for a year at the Business International Corporation,[25] then at the New York Public Interest Research Group

n late 1988, Obama entered Harvard Law School. He was selected as an editor of the Harvard Law Review at the end of his first year,[33] and president of the journal in his second year.[29][34] During his summers, he returned to Chicago, where he worked as a summer associate at the law firms of Sidley Austin in 1989 and Hopkins & Sutter in 1990.[35] After graduating with a Juris Doctor (J.D.) magna cum laude[36] from Harvard in 1991, he returned to Chicago..."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_obama

Comrade Stalin

You have described two people that went to Ivy League schools, and obtained advanced degrees...

Yet from that fact alone, you want to determine who is smarter? That is moronic.

 

[Dr.Who]

You have described two people that went to Ivy League schools, and obtained advanced degrees...

Yet from that fact alone, you want to determine who is smarter? That is moronic.

Based on those facts alone one would have to conclude that they were both pretty smart.

 

[PLC1]

Obama followed up the release of his long form birth certificate with his birth video!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/05/01/obama-official-birth-video_n_855945.html

 

[Rick]

Based on those facts alone one would have to conclude that they were both pretty smart.

Nooooooooo........ before "affirmative action" you would conclude BOTH were smart. For the last few decades however, for minorities, "affirmative action" breaks the link between merit and the supposed achievement indicated by such things.

 

[PLC1]

Nooooooooo........ before "affirmative action" you would conclude BOTH were smart. For the last few decades however, for minorities, "affirmative action" breaks the link between merit and the supposed achievement indicated by such things.

Affirmative action benefited mostly women. If that is what is operating here, why is it that we're not shooting darts at President Hillary?

 

[Rick]

Affirmative action benefited mostly women. If that is what is operating here, why is it that we're not shooting darts at President Hillary?

It only benefits (present tense) women more, and of course mostly middle class white women, than eg blacks because there are more of them. However, in the racial spoils system established by the left wing, skin pigmentation trumps having a vagina. There's actual objective evidence to conclude Hillary has smarts, in that she was a national merit scholar finalist in high school, and got into Wellesley where being a woman was no advantage because it's a women's college.

 

[Stalin]

Gee..it looks like all those Harvard Law Professors are a bunch of dummies as well

"...Days before he launched his campaign for the presidency, Barack H. Obama gave Law School professor David B. Wilkins ’77 a heads up: one of the professor’s favorite students might be heading to the White House.

But that favorite student wouldn’t be Barack. It’d be Michelle R. Obama, his wife.

The presidential hopeful graduated magna cum laude from the Law School in 1991; his wife earned the degree three years earlier.

But the senator was still outstanding in his own right—“brilliant, charismatic, and focused,” said Wilkins, the Kirkland and Ellis professor of law. The two forged a relationship after Obama became the first African American president of the Harvard Law Review.

Obama announced the creation of an exploratory committee Tuesday, effectively launching his bid for the presidency, but he revealed his decision to his closest supporters in a conference call days earlier.

“He talked about how the timing was not exactly what he himself expected, but with a tremendous response from the nation, that this is an important moment and a great opportunity to step forward,” Wilkins said.

Loeb University Professor Laurence H. Tribe ’62, who taught Obama and employed him as a research assistant, remembers him as a “brilliant, personable, and obviously unique” person. Tribe said that Obama’s theoretical perspective on applying modern physics to law was “very impressive.”

“He is obviously a serious intellectual as well as a fantastic campaigner who can reach across boundaries,” Tribe said. “He will make an extraordinarily fine president.”

Wilkins, too, vows to be “supportive of him in any way possible” and said that he is a “terrific candidate offering a fresh perspective that is desperately needed in American politics.”

He said he advised Obama to become a Supreme Court clerk. Obama recognized the honor in pursuing that post, Wilkins said, but quickly added that he wasn’t interested.

“He said that he wanted to write a book about his life and his father, go back to Chicago, get back into the community, and run for office there. He knew exactly what he wanted and went about getting it done,” Wilkins said. “He was the kind of person who you knew was destined for greatness.”

http://www.thecrimson.com/article/2007/1/19/obama-left-mark-on-hls-days/

Comrade Stalin

 

[PLC1]

Gee..it looks like all those Harvard Law Professors are a bunch of dummies as well

"...Days before he launched his campaign for the presidency, Barack H. Obama gave Law School professor David B. Wilkins ’77 a heads up: one of the professor’s favorite students might be heading to the White House.

But that favorite student wouldn’t be Barack. It’d be Michelle R. Obama, his wife.

The presidential hopeful graduated magna cum laude from the Law School in 1991; his wife earned the degree three years earlier.

But the senator was still outstanding in his own right—“brilliant, charismatic, and focused,” said Wilkins, the Kirkland and Ellis professor of law. The two forged a relationship after Obama became the first African American president of the Harvard Law Review.

Obama announced the creation of an exploratory committee Tuesday, effectively launching his bid for the presidency, but he revealed his decision to his closest supporters in a conference call days earlier.

“He talked about how the timing was not exactly what he himself expected, but with a tremendous response from the nation, that this is an important moment and a great opportunity to step forward,” Wilkins said.

Loeb University Professor Laurence H. Tribe ’62, who taught Obama and employed him as a research assistant, remembers him as a “brilliant, personable, and obviously unique” person. Tribe said that Obama’s theoretical perspective on applying modern physics to law was “very impressive.”

“He is obviously a serious intellectual as well as a fantastic campaigner who can reach across boundaries,” Tribe said. “He will make an extraordinarily fine president.”

Wilkins, too, vows to be “supportive of him in any way possible” and said that he is a “terrific candidate offering a fresh perspective that is desperately needed in American politics.”

He said he advised Obama to become a Supreme Court clerk. Obama recognized the honor in pursuing that post, Wilkins said, but quickly added that he wasn’t interested.

“He said that he wanted to write a book about his life and his father, go back to Chicago, get back into the community, and run for office there. He knew exactly what he wanted and went about getting it done,” Wilkins said. “He was the kind of person who you knew was destined for greatness.”

http://www.thecrimson.com/article/2007/1/19/obama-left-mark-on-hls-days/

Comrade Stalin

President Michelle in '16?

 

[Rick]

Gee..it looks like all those Harvard Law Professors are a bunch of dummies as well

"...Days before he launched his campaign for the presidency, Barack H. Obama gave Law School professor David B. Wilkins ’77 a heads up: one of the professor’s favorite students might be heading to the White House.

But that favorite student wouldn’t be Barack. It’d be Michelle R. Obama, his wife.

The presidential hopeful graduated magna cum laude from the Law School in 1991; his wife earned the degree three years earlier.

But the senator was still outstanding in his own right—“brilliant, charismatic, and focused,” said Wilkins, the Kirkland and Ellis professor of law. The two forged a relationship after Obama became the first African American president of the Harvard Law Review.

Obama announced the creation of an exploratory committee Tuesday, effectively launching his bid for the presidency, but he revealed his decision to his closest supporters in a conference call days earlier.

“He talked about how the timing was not exactly what he himself expected, but with a tremendous response from the nation, that this is an important moment and a great opportunity to step forward,” Wilkins said.

Loeb University Professor Laurence H. Tribe ’62, who taught Obama and employed him as a research assistant, remembers him as a “brilliant, personable, and obviously unique” person. Tribe said that Obama’s theoretical perspective on applying modern physics to law was “very impressive.”

“He is obviously a serious intellectual as well as a fantastic campaigner who can reach across boundaries,” Tribe said. “He will make an extraordinarily fine president.”

Wilkins, too, vows to be “supportive of him in any way possible” and said that he is a “terrific candidate offering a fresh perspective that is desperately needed in American politics.”

He said he advised Obama to become a Supreme Court clerk. Obama recognized the honor in pursuing that post, Wilkins said, but quickly added that he wasn’t interested.

“He said that he wanted to write a book about his life and his father, go back to Chicago, get back into the community, and run for office there. He knew exactly what he wanted and went about getting it done,” Wilkins said. “He was the kind of person who you knew was destined for greatness.”

http://www.thecrimson.com/article/2007/1/19/obama-left-mark-on-hls-days/

Comrade Stalin

BLAHHHHHHHHH HA HA HEE HEE HEEE!!!! A leftwing professor like the whole liberal/left establishment gives the standard BJ to obozo, because he's trying to support the first leftwing president since FDR. Just another meaningless leftie propagandist who offers no evidence whatsoever, and the REAL evidence, obozo's LSAT scores, go unreleased. Meanwhile, the FACTS of obozo's incompetent presidency are there for all to see: trillions of dollars of new debt for nothing but paying off his political constituencies, a third war started, huge unemployment, huge growth in government.