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Actually, they didn't....but it is interesting that you believe it did.  Had they found that energy radiated from cool objects to warm objects, the SB equation would look different (showing back radiation) and the second law of thermodynamics would have changed.


As to the rest, it is irrelevant.  I would like to thank you for so zealously proving my point....that being, that science is in its infancy and the things you think you know....you don't.  You have helped me prove beyond any reasonable doubt that today, 14 years into the 21'st century....science remains unsure as to what heat is.  We both provided perfectly credible sources saying that heat is and is not a thing...that heat does and does not flow....that heat is and is not a type of energy.


Heat.  The basis for the whole science of thermodynamics.  Heat, the topic that must be perfectly understood before one can rationally expound on what energy is and is not doing.  You can go on all day and night till the cows come home about what you think you know, but as you helped me so robustly prove, you are not much more than an arrogant, condescending asshole who, at this point doesn't even know what you don't know and have obviously not taken any time at all to consider it.


Rant about QM till your heart's content...tell me, or anyone who is interested enough to listen that it is settled science and all forms of things are "known" like photons, and net energy exchanges, and any of the other hypothetical, theoretical particles and processes that you believe are fact.....but the bottom line is that here in the 21's century, science remains unsure as to what heat is and if that is not understood, then the rest is entirely up in the air....because the rest depends entirely on what one "thinks" heat is.




No, I am afraid that you have clearly demonstrated that it is you who is wallowing around in the faith based "science" of the dark ages.  Your faith is strong....you believe....you are not skeptical....which is more than enough evidence that you are not operating from a position of science.  Science is skeptical of everything...science knows that it doesn't have all the answers and those that it thinks it has at the present moment are at any time subject to revision or complete collapse.  Faith believes....faith doesn't think...it acts as it is told to act....it bows down to those it perceives as high priests and keepers of the secret knowledge.....which is precisely what you are doing.


How many posts did you go on telling me and anyone else who would listen exactly what heat is, and its properties, and what it does, and on and on as if you....you of all people actually knew.  Never once taking the opportunity presented to actually come to learn something.  Your claim of giving me a "learning moment" some posts back was so ironically funny that I almost gave up the game right then.  It wasn't me who had a learning moment...it was you who was smack dab in the middle of one and didn't even know it.


Your faith was, and is so strong that you can only see what you believe in.  You couldn't look and see that the sources I was giving you were every bit as scientifically as credible as your own...and that they were saying the exact opposite of what you were saying.  All you could see was that anyone or anything that didn't beleive what you believe is heretical and therefore wrong.


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