Teachers and Education

[steveox]

This is insane .....



Again, my experience is that the whole process is much more complex than that!

Not insane,,,Wanna make Los Angeles safer city again? Then do something about this?

 

[Texas_tea]

Not insane,,,Wanna make Los Angeles safer city again? Then do something about this?

Again ...

Your comment is insanity!

 

[steveox]

Nope,,,You think its ok for a welfare mother to collect welfare and food stamps to take drugs drink booze and dont care what her kids do.

 

[Cruella]

Not insane,,,Wanna make Los Angeles safer city again? Then do something about this?

Here is the answer to fix that - some of it anyway

 

[Texas_tea]

Nope,,,You think its ok for a welfare mother to collect welfare and food stamps to take drugs drink booze and dont care what her kids do.

No ... I do not approve of that at all, but I am smart enough to know that the government taking over our children is just pure evil and insanity!

 

[steveox]

Heres what Newts ideas are..I like Them!

 

[PLC1]

Yes why not? It would take poor ghetto kids off the street not joining gangs and commiting crimes. Like Newt Gingrich has a great idea,, If you cant afford and raise your kids properly then put them in orphanage and a proper parents will adopt them give them a better life. Ever watch TV show called differant strokes?

And, who is going to decide on the definition of "properly"? Should we trust the government to do it, or perhaps the TV screen writer's guild?

 

[Cruella]

And, who is going to decide on the definition of "properly"? Should we trust the government to do it, or perhaps the TV screen writer's guild?

Liberals would decide that Jewish, Christian and Home schooled kids should be put into Government re-education camps. Hitler did it. Oh wait, he killed the Jewish kids.

 

[Johnny Tremain]

Liberals would decide that Jewish, Christian and Home schooled kids should be put into Government re-education camps. Hitler did it. Oh wait, he killed the Jewish kids.

Saul Alinsky--although Jewish himself (like George Soros )--VERY MUCH loved and admired the brutal tactics of the Nazis and how they were able to take control so quickly and completely. Obama and most other modern-day "organizers" (Brown Shirts) seem to not make the connection by saying--"well--their tactics were so effective--but WE are--'different'."

Ha! How stupid is it to believe that the methodology of Human Nature itself--is "DIFFERENT".
The Clintons fit into this model as well--just not that good at it.
Obama was chosen because (1) He was black (part--guaranteed 100% support from his people) and (2) He had the much-needed Elmer Gantry arm-waving hysterical ranting technique to rouse crowds during foamy-mouthed speeches.
IF he can read them.
Alone on his feet--he is sunk. See Debate No.1.

 

[PLC1]

Are we going to opine that the Nazis were liberals?

 

[Johnny Tremain]

Are we going to opine that the Nazis were liberals?

In the beginning--of course Germany was a very strange place in the 1920's--they had an odd element similar to it.
Berlin was quite liberal after WW1 in most ways--socially.
Ernst Rohm--comes to mind. Look at the leadership. And Himmler's SS in general. Obama's favorite crowd to coo over.

Personally, I think we now see around the world the grotesque combination of fascism and communism being melted together into a new cult.

They are all cults of personality.

 

[PLC1]

In the beginning--of course Germany was a very strange place in the 1920's--they had an odd element similar to it.
Berlin was quite liberal after WW1 in most ways--socially.
Ernst Rohm--comes to mind. Look at the leadership. And Himmler's SS in general. Obama's favorite crowd to coo over.

Personally, I think we now see around the world the grotesque combination of fascism and communism being melted together into a new cult.

They are all cults of personality.

The Nazis were intolerant of anyone who was different, different race, sexual orientation, religion. Modern liberalism is about diversity.
The Nazis were all about a strong military.
They were pretty nationalistic.....

That doesn't sound so liberal, at least not as defined in modern America.

But, they didn't resemble modern Conservatives either. They were more extreme authoritarians than anything, more like the Taliban only with more power.

It was the Soviets who were more similar to modern conservatives than the Nazis:

 

[Cruella]

Are we going to opine that the Nazis were liberals?

"Contrary to what most people think, the Nazis were ardent socialists (hence the term “National socialism”). They believed in free health care and guaranteed jobs. They confiscated inherited wealth and spent vast sums on public education. They purged the church from public policy, promoted a new form of pagan spirituality, and inserted the authority of the state into every nook and cranny of daily life. The Nazis declared war on smoking, supported abortion, euthanasia, and gun control. They loathed the free market, provided generous pensions for the elderly, and maintained a strict racial quota system in their universities—where campus speech codes were all the rage. The Nazis led the world in organic farming and alternative medicine. Hitler was a strict vegetarian, and Himmler was an animal rights activist."

http://www.amazon.com/Liberal-Fascism-American-Mussolini-Politics/dp/0385511841

 

[Johnny Tremain]

The Nazis were intolerant of anyone who was different, different race, sexual orientation, religion. Modern liberalism is about diversity.
The Nazis were all about a strong military.
They were pretty nationalistic.....

That doesn't sound so liberal, at least not as defined in modern America.

But, they didn't resemble modern Conservatives either. They were more extreme authoritarians than anything, more like the Taliban only with more power.

It was the Soviets who were more similar to modern conservatives than the Nazis:

FYI--old and long known historical fact--HITLER was anti-everything you mentioned--but the ones who vaulted him to power--well that is another ball of wax. Sound familiar? http://www.historyplace.com/worldwar2/holocaust/h-roehm.htm

Strong military is for expansionism, usually. Or defense.

The Soviets were the inventors--more or less, on a large scale anyway--of leftism.
Collectivism might be a better description.

It is ALL about ONE person--in almost all insane governments.
One might say--a desire to avoid all reconciliation and debate ("democracy") by giving one person total control.
Totalitarianism.
Once called--monarchy.

 

[Gipper]

"Contrary to what most people think, the Nazis were ardent socialists (hence the term “National socialism”). They believed in free health care and guaranteed jobs. They confiscated inherited wealth and spent vast sums on public education. They purged the church from public policy, promoted a new form of pagan spirituality, and inserted the authority of the state into every nook and cranny of daily life. The Nazis declared war on smoking, supported abortion, euthanasia, and gun control. They loathed the free market, provided generous pensions for the elderly, and maintained a strict racial quota system in their universities—where campus speech codes were all the rage. The Nazis led the world in organic farming and alternative medicine. Hitler was a strict vegetarian, and Himmler was an animal rights activist."

http://www.amazon.com/Liberal-Fascism-American-Mussolini-Politics/dp/0385511841

Sounds eerily similar to....uh...damn....its on the tip of my tongue....ugh!!!....sh*t!!!!...I lost it.....

Lets see now....doesn't the left regularly equate Nazism to conservatism? Yet I don't see those on the left like my good bud the pot smoking moderator, ever condemn such idioticy. I guess its that old thing about who's ox is getting gored....