The Bush-"Legacy"

[rationalist]

You started it by making up stories about Iran declaring war on Israel.

 

[Mr. Shaman]

Do you think Mahmoud Ahmadinejad could go to war right after his statement back in 2005 without the necessary power? Of course not, they have to wait until they've gotten a hold of the nuclear arms, and then the fighting can start.

Sounds like BUSHCO's build-up to the Iraq War....all-over-again.....

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"According to the unusually forthright report by the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), Iran's level of co-operation with the agency was decreasing, adding to concerns about "possible military dimensions" to its nuclear programme."

 

[OldTrapper]

Iran is NOT attacking anyone.

Are you really that stupid that you think it is?

Speaking of stupid, what do you call it when Iran suports others who do their attacking for them?

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=35000


Consider Iran’s paradoxical relationship with two of the leading Sunni extremist groups, al Qaeda and the Taliban, and then the theological nature of the regime’s motivation.

Al Qaeda’s relationship with Iran started in late 1991. The 9/11 Commission Report states al Qaeda and Iranian operatives established an informal agreement to cooperate for actions against Israel and the U.S. Al Qaeda operatives subsequently trained in Iran and Lebanon, home to Iran’s proxy terror group Hizballah.

The 9/11 Commission Report states Iranian officials also facilitated the travel of al Qaeda members after that group relocated to Afghanistan in 1996, to include most of the 9/11 hijackers. Then in late 2001 Iran aided al Qaeda’s retreat from Afghanistan and has allowed many al Qaeda members to operate from Iranian soil ever since.

Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) plays the primary host for al Qaeda members in that country. One of al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden’s wives and at least six of his children live in a secret compound in Tehran. Top al Qaeda operatives also have or continue to live in Iran such as bin Laden’s son, Saad bin Laden, the heir apparent to the group; Abu Ghaith, bin Laden’s spokesman; and Abdel al Aziz al Masri, al Qaeda’s nuclear weapons chief.

Hussein Shobokshi, a columnist for the Saudi-owned newspaper Asharq Alawsat, wrote that Iran plays host to al Qaeda for operational reasons. He confirms “…that Iran has been able to infiltrate al Qaeda operations. They have been hosting key figures in the leadership structure of al Qaeda for some time.”

Iran-based al Qaeda members enjoy freedom of movement even though they are under some form of “house arrest.” Last year, for example, Saad bin Laden was allegedly able to travel to join his father in northern Pakistan and a recent report indicates the others are well treated to include given the opportunity to take shopping trips.

For years Iran has refused to identify and turn over al Qaeda members to the U.S. or their home country. But last January the U.S. Treasury Department designated four al Qaeda associates in Iran under an executive order, which makes clear that Iran and al Qaeda have been working together on terrorist operations.

The Saudi government alleges al Qaeda operatives inside Iran plot and assist acts of terrorism in other Gulf nations. The alleged perpetrators include Saudi citizens living in Iran who are on the Kingdom’s most wanted list.

Last year, the Bahraini government convicted a five-member cell for receiving explosives and weapons training, engaging in terrorism overseas and terrorism financing targeting “friendly countries.” The men traveled from Bahrain to Afghanistan via Tehran airport where they were met by several al Qaeda-affiliated personnel. The al Qaeda facilitators passed them along from “person to person” until they arrived in Afghan training camps.

Iran also cooperates with the Taliban which Tehran once denounced as “an affront to Islam.” In 1998, Iran was on the verge of hostilities after Afghan Taliban slaughtered Shiites in Mazar-e-Sharif. But in spite of ideological differences and hostilities Iran and the Taliban cooperate because of their common enemy, the U.S. Consider Iran’s assistance to the Taliban.

 

[rationalist]

''Speaking of stupid, what do you call it when Iran suports others who do their attacking for them?''

Erm I call it Rodney, or Dave.

How about William?

Any of those work for you?

 

[Mr. Shaman]

Speaking of stupid, what do you call it when Iran suports others who do their attacking for them?

Ah, yes, 'cause....after all....it's different, when other people do it...right?

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[Devil505]

''Speaking of stupid, what do you call it when Iran suports others who do their attacking for them?''

Erm I call it Rodney, or Dave.

How about William?

Any of those work for you?

"Fred" is always a good choice. (just a suggestion)

 

[Diamond]

Sounds like BUSHCO's build-up to the Iraq War....all-over-again.....

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"According to the unusually forthright report by the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), Iran's level of co-operation with the agency was decreasing, adding to concerns about "possible military dimensions" to its nuclear programme."

Let's hope that it is a fact.

And yes, no shocker in the decreasing Iranian co-operation.

 

[samsara15]

both sides usually collapse

Every election we hear this. One year the Democrats are collapsing, the next the GOP will implode. Odds are against it.

since if they are too successful in gaining power, the failures of their own policies become evident. That's what happened to Bush - he became so powerful that the gaps in his vision became painfully clear to all. He had a chance to make a major mess of things, and he did, which is what politicians do. Now it is happening to Obama. I'd rather go down the drain following Obama's policies, but that's what makes me a liberal.

 

[Mr. Shaman]

possible[/COLOR] military dimensions" to its nuclear programme.[/B]"

Let's hope that it is a fact.

Ah, yes....who needs actual "military dimensions"....PROVEN (you're obviously too-young to remember
) ....when "conservative" need to prove their manhhood....by sending other Americans' kids to Die!!

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[Diamond]

Ah, yes....who needs actual "military dimensions"....PROVEN (you're obviously too-young to remember
) ....when "conservative" need to prove their manhhood....by sending other Americans' kids to Die!!

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Aah, yes. Let's trust the UN. The same UN funding Israel-hating school books for Palestinian children

 

[rationalist]

Another balanced view from Diamond.

Did you make that one up as well Diamond?

BTW how is he war between Israel and Iran going?

Who is winning?

Sorry I have to ask you because nobody else seems to know it is happening.

 

[Mr. Shaman]

It's lookin' like we're Back To ZERO, in Iraq!!



In the up-coming election, the fundamentalists want Chalabi, and the secularists would prefer the resurrection of Saddam Hussein!!

I'd say this qualifies as Mission Accomplished Time!!!

Lil' Dumbya can (now) add ANOTHER major screw-up to his List O' Accomplishments!!!

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[Pandora]

It's lookin' like we're Back To ZERO, in Iraq!!



In the up-coming election, the fundamentalists want Chalabi, and the secularists would prefer the resurrection of Saddam Hussein!!

I'd say this qualifies as Mission Accomplished Time!!!

Lil' Dumbya can (now) add ANOTHER major screw-up to his List O' Accomplishments!!!

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It has been obama's baby for over a year. When obama got the job Iraq was winding down fine... but like everything he tries to fix, its worse

 

[Mr. Shaman]

Aah, yes. Let's trust the UN. The same UN funding Israel-hating school books for Palestinian children

Understood.

You "conservatives" never were big fans o' oversight......


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[Mr. Shaman]

When obama got the job Iraq was winding down fine...

Yep....back to where they were!!!



What....ya' think we need to send-in the troops and make them vote the way Bush-apologists want????

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