3) moral atheisim is hypocracy. if there is no god and no soul than life has no real value than there are no morals. so why do we have morals? morals come from religion. thats where these atheists REALLY get their morals from.
If there is no God and no "soul" then life is simply life, to be lived for the living of it, not as preparation for an afterlife. Living "well" becomes more a necessity because this, here, is all there is, rather than living "well" in order to get into the better afterlife.
However, what is considered "well" is, and must be, subjective.
All moral restrictions derive from social constructions ("societies"). The "group mentality" produces the feeling, sometimes the strong feeling, that violating certain moral standards is "wrong," when the only thing that will feel wrong totally naturally to an individual is an action which leads to personal loss of some kind. One the most pervasive social units in Western history is the Christian Church, and as a result its ideas on morality have become so ingrained in our culture that even places that have rejected the church still adhere to norms and values that resemble some of its core "morals" - mistaking them for "morals" that are entirely personally derived. I've seen plenty of atheists and agnostics who denounce God but uphold many of "God's" values, unable to see that even if they are making a personal decision to adhere to those morals, the thing that makes them want to follow those morals is still socially-instilled, which still derives back from the Church. I'm sorry, Mare, that's just how history has shaped the West.
The only atheists and agnostics who own their own morality are the ones who have gone through every single thing they consider "wrong" and asked themselves why they consider it to be wrong. And "well, rape is wrong because hurts someone" isn't a good enough answer - because the next question is, inevitably, "why is it wrong to hurt others?"
I, myself, haven't managed to get through all of this yet, but someday, hopefully, I will.