Trump Embraces Authoritarian Playbook of Hungary's Orbán

[mark francis]

The Epstein files tell us otherwise.

The Epstein files have a lot of info dozens of democrats implicated by the info released in the files are claiming are all lies.

 

[Marchimedes]

when they came for the communists, i did nothing because i was not a communist

Well, sport, if you gonna start an OP with a tiny part of that quote tells me you are cherry picking. I know this quote...



"First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist. Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a trade unionist. Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew. Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me." — Martin Niemöller.

Odd, I didn't remember anything about communists, so I had to go look it up. That's an odd kinda paraphrasing plagiarism you did there, sport.

I'm just into the OP of your thread here. I haven't read ahead but in this 2k viewed thread of yours did no one else catch that?

revealing look, by someone who lived through it,

Say what now? Am I just wrong, are you quoting someone else that took that great quote and decided to usurp it?

in the country, of how orban destroyed
democracy in hungary

I'm not sure what Hungary is but I wouldn't call it a democracy. "Enforced democracy?"

"..The first step in a fascist movement is the combination under an energetic leader of a number of men who possess more than the average share of leisure, brutality, and stupidity.

Define fascism! Get it wrong and I'll quote Mussolini and not get it wrong.

The next step is to fascinate fools

Stalin fascinates you!

and muzzle the intelligent,

Good luck trying to do that to me.

by emotional excitement

Every anti-ICE protester.

on the one hand and terrorism on the other "

Sumpin sumpin terrorism is the use of violence when creeps don't get their way by the vote. - Marchimedes

Bertrand Russell: Freedom

I don't know who that is. Would you like me to dig in on that one?

So, Mr. Stalin, this is your 2k thread? You've had a year to get to this number, not bad considering there's three of us here. is this how you got to that number?



Don't know, man, first post and I ain't seeing it.

comrade stalin

Just why? How do you feel about Karl Marx?

 

[Gabriel_Bell]

Karl Marx described the British economy in the mid 1800's and he did a very accurate account of what British capitalism and how it works, whom it benefited and whom it oppressed. Then he suggested how it could and should be improved. And many of the reforms he suggested were implemented. The workhouses were abolished, trade unions were allowed to negotiate terms of employment and wages, A National Health Plan was begun, and people live much better in 2026 than they did in 1850.

Russians, Chinese, Singaporeans, and many other people live better because of some of what Marx suggested. But of course, Marx was not totally effective. But no one is forced to go barefoot in Russia, China or the UK.

Since Marx, there have been more and better changes than what Marx suggested.

 

[mark francis]

Karl Marx described the British economy in the mid 1800's and he did a very accurate account of what British capitalism and how it works, whom it benefited and whom it oppressed. Then he suggested how it could and should be improved. And many of the reforms he suggested were implemented. The workhouses were abolished, trade unions were allowed to negotiate terms of employment and wages, A National Health Plan was begun, and people live much better in 2026 than they did in 1850.

Russians, Chinese, Singaporeans, and many other people live better because of some of what Marx suggested. But of course, Marx was not totally effective. But no one is forced to go barefoot in Russia, China or the UK.

Since Marx, there have been more and better changes than what Marx suggested.

Very poor students of history and economics fail to understand the serious drawbacks and dangers of Marxism.

 

[Gabriel_Bell]

Very poor students of history and economics fail to understand the serious drawbacks and dangers of Marxism.

The drawbacks of capitalism are far less often explained as those of Marxism: monopolism, inequality and cronyism.

Neither Marxism nor capitalism are efficient, fair, or competent. What needs to happen is a combination of the advantages of both: Democratic Socialism.

 

[mark francis]

The drawbacks of capitalism are far less often explained as those of Marxism: monopolism, inequality and cronyism.

Neither Marxism nor capitalism are efficient, fair, or competent. What needs to happen is a combination of the advantages of both: Democratic Socialism.

Mamdani has gotten off to a very bad start trying to prove a Muslim brand of 'warm collectivism' is a great way to bring peace and prosperity to Americans.

 

[Gabriel_Bell]

Mamdani seems to be doing precisely what he promised to do. And it is undeniable that the Mayr of NYC needs to kowtow to the genocidal Netanyahu.
He is smarter than Shitshizpants and more popular as well.
Unlike Shitshizpants, he has never said that he HATES those that do not support him.

 

[mark francis]

Mamdani seems to be doing precisely what he promised to do. And it is undeniable that the Mayr of NYC needs to kowtow to the genocidal Netanyahu.
He is smarter than Shitshizpants and more popular as well.
Unlike Shitshizpants, he has never said that he HATES those that do not support him.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/what-nyc-mayor-elect-zohran-mamdani-has-actually-said-about-jews-israel-and-antisemitism/

What NYC Mayor-elect Zohran Mamdani has actually said about Jews, Israel and antisemitism​

His key statements, from his reaction to the October 7 massacre to his bill targeting settlement funding and his stance on the phrase ‘Globalize the intifada’​

So it’s no surprise that as Mamdani celebrates his Tuesday victory and prepares to take office on January 1, 2026, as mayor of New York — the city with the largest Jewish population in the world — Jewish New Yorkers have closely scrutinized what he has said about Jews, Israel and the conflict in the Middle East.


The Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions (BDS) movement against Israel

As Mamdani said at a May town hall for the UJA-Federation, one of the city’s largest Jewish groups, he supports the BDS movement, which lobbies for an economic, cultural and academic boycott of Israel. Israel and its advocates have fought a decades-long battle to marginalize the movement, which its critics say seeks the end of Israel as a Jewish state.

Mamdani’s support for boycotting Israel stretches back through his entire adult life. While a student at Bowdoin College — where he co-founded the school’s Students for Justice in Palestine chapter — Mamdani agreed with the American Studies Association’s boycott of Israeli academic institutions in 2014.

“Israeli universities are both actively and passively complicit in the crimes of both the Israeli military and the Israeli government in all its settler-colonial forms,” Mamdani wrote in an op-ed in the school’s student newspaper, published in 2014, the year he graduated. “Israeli universities give priority admission to soldiers, discriminate against Palestinian students, and have developed remote-controlled bulldozers for the Israeli Army’s home demolitions.”

Israel’s right to exist
During the long mayoral primary campaign, Mamdani repeatedly said that Israel has a right to exist, though he has not said it has a right to exist as a Jewish state. He usually qualifies the statement by adding that Israel is flouting its responsibilities under international law, based on its treatment of Palestinians.

October 7 and the war in Gaza
Mamdani’s first statement about the Hamas-led attack of October 7, 2023, which he issued the day after, expressed mourning for “the hundreds of people killed across Israel and Palestine in the last 36 hours.”

The attacking terrorists killed 1,200 Israelis, took 251 hostage and committed a range of brutal atrocities in communities across southern Israel. Israel repelled the invading terrorists and began airstrikes in Gaza shortly afterward, but began its ground invasion of Gaza weeks later.

Since then, Mamdani has consistently referred to Israel’s actions in Gaza as a “genocide” and said the United States, through its support of Israel, is “subsidizing a genocide.” Israel adamantly denies the charge of genocide.

Democratic mayoral candidate Zohran Mamdani, right, and Attorney General of New York Letitia James walk in the NYC Pride March, June 29, 2025, in New York. (AP Photo/Olga Fedorova)