GenSeneca
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Our "global supremacy of the oceans" is in decline... According to WND and their expert Seth Cropsey:
Here's another expert who also recognizes our decline:
‘the United States will inevitably have to face…a progressive loss of maritime supremacy in the South China Sea and its environs,’ Andrew Davies, an analyst with the Australian Strategic Policy Institute, told The Diplomat.It's a pretty interesting article if anyone cares to read it.
Now, you said,
America cannot continue to run trillion dollar deficits and our "global supremacy of the oceans" has already been diminished to keep those deficits as small as possible. The cuts will only get deeper as we continue down our current path of insolvency.
As for China, you pointed out that we spend over $160 billion on our Navy alone... China's entire military budget is $91.5 billion.
And lastly,
A growing Chinese fleet could keep the declining U.S. Navy out of the Western Pacific, according to an expert cited in a report from Joseph Farah's G2 Bulletin.
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Yet, the U.S. Navy has cut back the number and type of ships to the level it was prior to the Reagan administration. Indeed, the Navy hasn't been as small since the administration of William Howard Taft, according to naval expert Seth Cropsey. - WND
Feel free to say the expert you cited doesn't know what he's talking about. ...
Yet, the U.S. Navy has cut back the number and type of ships to the level it was prior to the Reagan administration. Indeed, the Navy hasn't been as small since the administration of William Howard Taft, according to naval expert Seth Cropsey. - WND
Here's another expert who also recognizes our decline:
‘the United States will inevitably have to face…a progressive loss of maritime supremacy in the South China Sea and its environs,’ Andrew Davies, an analyst with the Australian Strategic Policy Institute, told The Diplomat.
Now, you said,
There is so much more to the equation than "The navy costs X, we get benefit Y"...
That is the single most important part of the equation. Going back to my analogy of burning duffel bags full of 100 dollar bills in your fireplace, you can only continue such a policy for so long, by pointing to other so called "benefits" to rationalize continuation of the policy, but eventually you run out of money. America cannot continue to run trillion dollar deficits and our "global supremacy of the oceans" has already been diminished to keep those deficits as small as possible. The cuts will only get deeper as we continue down our current path of insolvency.
As for China, you pointed out that we spend over $160 billion on our Navy alone... China's entire military budget is $91.5 billion.
And lastly,
Thinking that if we suddenly pulled back, no one would step up to take our place is wishful thinking.
Two things here, I suggested that we have a gradual withdrawal from the world theater, not a sudden one. Also, I never claimed no one would take our place... Regional powers will emerge to take our place, China will only be one of those powers.