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Arnold Wants to Legalize MJ to get the Tax Money!

Discussion in 'U.S. Politics' started by Pidgey, May 6, 2009.

  1. Pidgey

    Pidgey Well-Known Member

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    Frankly, I don't care. Don't know how much tax revenue that would generate, but he'd probably be stepping on somebody's profits in a big way. I couldn't care less if people toke all they want as long as I don't have to carry them at work or get creamed by them in traffic if they're under the influence.

    http://uk.reuters.com/article/usPoliticsNews/idUKTRE54503R20090506
     
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    PLC1 Moderator Staff Member

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    Legalizing Marijuana and treating it like alcohol would no doubt be a good idea. It won't happen, for a variety of reasons.

    For one thing, pot laws are federal. California can't legalize pot until the feds allow it.

    For another, yes, doing so would be stepping on someone's toes. First, the moralists and authoritarians would try to shred any pol who suggested such a thing. If they were unsuccessful, there is a good chance that the drug dealers would mount a huge ad campaign, and failing that, hire a hit man.
     
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    I can sympathize with that viewpoint. Let's make them fully responsible for what they do while under the influence, and ease the tax burden on the rest of us.
     
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    There are some really interesting ways that it could help address some of the serious issues California finds itself in, and certainly one of them would be through decriminalizing measures and finding a reasonable way to tax it, at nearly every level, but also still have the safeguards in place to protect the public.

    I think key to it would be regulating it through its individual usage, and ensuring that it is still illegal to drive under the influence, and setting an age limit, some places off limits to consume etc. There are a few examples from other places around the world that certainly could serve as a working model, and tweak that as needed to suit California or American systems.

    Then this will lift a much needed burden in the court and penal systems. Not to mention the time and change of focus that law enforcement could be had in not arresting otherwise law abiding citizens for having a joint.
     
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    Well that is a tricky question. Alaska has moved a bill through the house judiciary committee(I think) that pertains to skirting potential federal law on any new legislation regarding firearms. There is a potential for that because the feds are only supposed to regulate interstate commerce, and any marijuana grown is to be consumed in California.
    http://housemajority.org/spon.php?id=26HB186
    Also, the Justice department has a fair amount of discression in what takes priority on indictments etc.
    I have read a few months ago that the Obama administration has made dealing with the dispenseries a low priority. The same was the case in Alaska after the AKSC upheld the Ravin decision, meaning that small amounts of marijuana in private homes were simply not prosecuted.
    Its California, hell isnt anything possible there? Arnold Schwarzenegger is the Governor. Ill rest my case at that.
    Somehow I doubt that the drug dealers would somehow form thier own PAC. Nor do I think there would be much hit man stuff going on, to warrant enough fear that would make a tidal change in the views on how to deal with marijuna.
     
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    Andy Well-Known Member

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    My problem is that this is a cover for bad economic policy. The socialist style policies of California have brought them to bankruptcy. But instead of dealing with the underlining issue, he's trying to tax his way out of the problem. This doesn't work.
     
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    Mr. Shaman New Member

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    That's all that any mature/"experinced"-user would request.

    NOW, we've gotta remind The DEA, who's workin' for WHO!!!! :mad:
     
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    Yeah, Skippy.....that's what it was....socialist style policies of California.

    :rolleyes:

    .....And, then.....Ahhhnold came-to-the-re$cue.​

    I guess you'd have to be old-enough to remember this energy-hu$tle (designed to jettison Gray Davis)....Skippy!!

    :rolleyes:

     
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    New taxes and new borrowing are cover for bad economic policy, yes. Until the state cuts back spending, there won't be a real fix for the economic woes.

    Still, legalizing pot would take a huge burden off of the penal system, as well as raising some tax revenue.

    And, given this statement by Bunz:

    It is, indeed, California, and anything is possible. There is some hope for a rational drug policy, if only the feds will back off.
     
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    I wont disagree that much. If I lived in California I would probably be a hard core GOP supporter. I cant believe what the average Californian has allowed to happen with thier state government, and well life in general there.

    While I dont think anyone but someone high on the stuff in question would think that a great shift policy when it comes to mj, even to maximize the tax revenue and letting a lot of people off the hook legally I might make a dent in the issue. Certainly no fix.
     
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    Well, I dont know how you manage in PLC, I am not sure what part of the state you live in, but having seen quite a bit of California, I couldnt see myself living in %92 of those areas. But I am sure many share the same view about my state...either way.

    When sattelite tv became available here about 5 years ago, for the first 2 years, our local channels were LA based. The recall was going on, and I could not believe the amount of political ads and overall nastiness they were by nature.

    I will say the sequoias are impressive. Also, the amount of agriculture.

    OK...back on topic. As for the feds taking a step back, I would say the possibility is likely.
    http://politics.theatlantic.com/2009/05/obamas_drug_czar_sails.php
     
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    I doubt it. Legalizing alcohol after the end of prohibition sure didn't make a dent in our national debt.
     
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    How long did it take you, to make-up THAT one, Skippy??

    Is Annie "Bones" Coulter offering some kind o' correspondence-course in Makin' Up Sh*t????

    :rolleyes:

     
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