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Baby, Mother, Father and Grandfather of All Bombs

Discussion in 'Asian Politics' started by reedak, Apr 15, 2017.

  1. reedak

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    The following is full text of the article published by the Chinese state-run tabloid, Global Times, on 14 April 2017 under the headline "Will ‘Mother of All Bombs’ scare NK?" at http://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1042509.shtml

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    The US on Thursday dropped the "Mother of All Bombs" - the most powerful nonnuclear bomb used by the US so far - on an Islamic State cave complex in Afghanistan.

    Trump said Thursday that the mission was "very successful" and that he does not know whether the bomb will send a message to North Korea.

    In less than three months since Trump's inauguration, the US military has launched at least two strikes that grabbed the world's attention, the first being the airstrike on a Syrian airfield, and the second being the use of "Mother of All Bombs" in Afghanistan. Trump uses military force more aggressively than Barack Obama. He has demonstrated a certain level of obsession and pride toward US military prowess.

    Even for George W. Bush, who fought two wars during his presidency, every attack had to go through lengthy procedures, and starts of war had been widely expected. However, the two recent attacks came rather abruptly. With this frequency and speed in use of force, Trump may go down in history as the "war president."

    "Mother of All Bombs" is a vicious weapon that consumes a large amount of oxygen during explosion. Because of its devastative capability, the actual probability of hurting the civilians is very high. The US in the past has killed and injured civilians in its attacks in Iraq and Afghanistan. The use of "Mother of All Bombs" showed Washington is turning a blind eye on civilian casualties.

    This bombing is clearly aimed at testing the weapon in real combat and provides a new gimmick in US military deterrence. North Korea must have felt the shock wave traveling all the way from Afghanistan. It would be nice if the bomb could frighten Pyongyang but its actual impact may just be the opposite.

    Pyongyang's logic in the recent years has been that, without nuclear weapons, what happened to Saddam and Gaddafi would befall its own administration. The "Mother of All Bombs" may once again misguide Pyongyang, leading it to believe that it is crucial to upgrade its explosives.

    It's been widely speculated that North Korea is preparing for its sixth nuclear test and its leader Kim Jong-un is weighing his options. The message sent by the US military is not conducive to helping Pyongyang make a reasonable decision.

    It has been reported that Russia owns a similar device called the "father of all bombs." Imagine how the US and the West would react if Russia drops that bomb on the Islamic State during its Syrian airstrikes.

    The US seems to enjoy a privilege to do whatever it likes. To the world, this could bring more danger than security. (End text)

    Poster's comment: The US has the "Mother of All Bombs" while Russia owns the "Father of All Bombs". In my opinion, North Korea has the "Baby of All Bombs" while China owns the "Grandfather of All Bombs".

    For those who are curious about the "Grandfather of All Bombs", this is how it works. China can drop a bombshell on North Korea by telling the devil incarnate frankly that she is washing her hands of all Korean conflicts: "We Chinese had enough sufferings from the late Qing dynasty to the end of the Second World War. We don't want to lose overnight the little bit of progress and prosperity which we have achieved since 1972. You are not a Chinese province, yet we treat you better than any of our provinces. If you want to fight against the US, please go ahead. If you want to die, please die faster. Don't drag us along to the brink of the abyss. Henceforth we have nothing to do with you any more."
     
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    Civilians do not live in or around cave complexes in the mountains. Silly article.
     
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    ... the rest is pretty much blah blah blah......
     
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    They make a good point about sudden lack of oxygen. A nice bonus to the blast itself.
     
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    I suppose....but mum of all bombs, dad of all bombs little brother, second cousin first removed or mad uncle in the bath chair with the mad haircut bomb.......well ...... they're just bombs!! Its a big bomb!
    carpet bomb the mad fuckers and be done with them! Why not lob a whole salvo of the things?

    Did you see that hairbrained weirdo ex-president Hamhead Kharzi on telly "I say please be telling me vi hah day bhombing afghanistan I say please be telling me vat rite day have to bomb the bejeebers out of dis peaceful fun loving land!!" Guy should shove his head back up his ass and leave the daylight to people that know what to do with it.
     
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    Just one further little issue - this big bomb thingy- ma-jig that cost upwards of USD27M - it killed 36 ragheads! thats oodles of cash per dead raghead which seems a bit .... well ...... seems like a waste of money really. Since they knew where these ragheads were why not just gas the bastards?
     
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    Really? You really believe that people (taliban, terrorists or just any other group you want to name) are foregoing having a life (including sex, children, food suppliers, etc. . .) because they hide in caves?

    Bamiyan's ancient cave dwellings shelter homeless Afghans - World ...
    www.dawn.com/news/1196891

    How ignorant you are in your obsessive desire to support anything the US dictator does!
     
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    It's remote
    It's no secret ISIS has moved it
    Are you foolish enough to think anyone would live there ?
    I won't bother explaining how topography limits impact as you would never comprehend.
     
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    ISIS moved what? The caves that refugees are living in? And what has topography to do with where people live out of necessity?

    Did you even bother to read the article before spewing your usual ignorance?
     
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    Obviously, you would know better. . .after all, you have walked there all your life and are very familiar with the culture and with the needs of the poorest people in a poor country, right?

    Your mind is so closed that it is a wonder you can even see the light of day!
     
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    I know people who have been in those caves. Do you ?
    Even poor people know where it's too dangerous to be. You think they are too foolish to know this ?
     
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    Poor people don't want to live in Aleppo. But, they are there are they not? Must be that "foolishness" you ignorantly speak of.

    BTW, do you think those poor people you have no compassion for should be allowed to resettle in America since we destroyed what government, or society, they had?
     
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    You do, do you? Well. . .it's just as easy for me to say that I know people who have lived in those caves. . .but I do not lie.
     
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    They were helping the Afghans rid the area of Soviets. Quite familiar with the system. No need to lie.
     
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    you know that these "caves" are not caves in the sense that there are grimy little chaps with little pickaxes hewing little holes in rocks don't you?
     
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