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I've already proven you wrong Sublime on your intial bogus agenda as well as denounced you and professed to assert what you are. However, it has to my abhorrence, I believe, backfired against me to my own being discredited in character which I cannot allow or let grow to a false circulated understanding. I felt it is nobler and wise to instead of ending this on the elevation it is, to take you to school when proving you wrong and if I could not prove you wrong without a shadow of a doubt, I could at least take you to the conservative school which would polarize this argument.
Christians commit evil deeds too. Believing in a religion doesn't stop you from commiting evil deeds.
I've never argued it did but this is a point of reason and not a point of rationale. In truth, man's base spirit is the
fountain of evil which is why compilations of human behavior and occurences gave way to morality in the first place!
Well thats just not true is it. Even Americas law is not based upon Christianity's 'immortal laws.' Western laws are set by the set of morals that have developed with humanity over the centuries, and it is pretty much the same all over the world. Only civillisations that have not had contact for hundreds of years have different morals.
Firstly, I am no longer discussing Christianity specifically but morality which Christianity
has laid and supported which of course
is quite obviously the origin of the presently perverted Western Law.
Religions are not what gives people morals, they just complicate the process.
I'd love to see you substantiate this erroneous claim.
This was a really intelligent post, with no personal attacks or anything. But then you just come out with this underlying arrogance by proclaiming yourself to be one of the worlds most intelligent men.
If you thought that is what I meant, well that's just silly. What I was trying to illustrate was everyone even my arrogant self will be mistaken and not know all the facets of social and national stability and integrity.
You are certainly a wordsmith, but underneath you hate atheism just like I hate organized religon. I don't hate religion for what it stands for, thats just funny to me because its based on what your elders tell you and blind trust of that.
Blind, huh? It's school time. Human beings participate in the accumulated experience of their innumerable ancestors; very little is totally forgotten. Only a small part of this knowledge, however, is formalized in literature and deliberate instruction; the greater part remains embedded in instinct, comon custom, prejudice, and ancient usage. Ignore this enormous bulk of racial knowledge or tinker impudently with it, and man is left awfully afloat in a sea of emotions and ambitions, with only the scanty stock of formal learning and the puny resources of individual reason to sustain them.Therefore you are clearly not only an opponent of religion, but you are also an opponent of morality because you have denied the obvious and natural truth that religion is the primary source of morality and criticized the believing that morality is really carefully accumulated ancestral guidance and code. This is why I labeled atheists as 'splatters of Mainstreet Vomit' and declared you are dishonest from the very beginning.
I hate religion because of all the strings attached, and I can see you hate atheism for the same reason. There, we find common ground in one huge oxymoron.
Without close speculation, this is an apparently fair, accurate statement but in truth, it isn't. I do not hate atheism because of its belief but I hate it for it's anti-cultural, anti-national, and anti-ancestral ways as well the cost of its influence and prevalence on society.
You, for some reason, believe a society without mass organized religion will be a huge anarchaic civillisation of loose/no morals. What the case actually is is tha religion is needed when the going is tough and there are lots of unanswered questions. However, as humans find more of the answers and life gets easier, they become content with not knowing what is coming when they die and religion slowly fades out of need.
This is something yet to be seen. But such an argument is meant for another time.
Some of your post has made me hate you less, despite the fact I disagree with it.
While, I thought it fair to treat you more respectably, I still hate you and your kind all the same. I hate Muslims because they wish to do my kind and I conventional physical harm, but I hate atheists and liberals perhaps even more because they wish to do my kind and I psychological and emotional harm which is far further reaching, will last longer, and more people will endure. Ptooee.
In fact I will even go as far to assert that understood Atheists are not really people who don't believe in God but atheist extremists who are against God, which in turn is Evil. Adding up what I know which has proven itself once again, I will conclude that Sublime is truly an Evil person and can only be looked at as such. And as you know, people who are evil are the mouthpieces of misery and above all, like this man want to turn people against God.
