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If Medicare is so wonderful, why did Ted Kennedy not use it?

Discussion in 'U.S. Politics' started by chestnut, Aug 31, 2009.

  1. chestnut

    chestnut New Member

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    Makes you wonder? His vision was universal health coverage. For all Americans... Of course, except for the elitist in Washington.

    These Senators and Congressmen, both Dems and Repubs, work for us.

    Why do they have the best health plans?

    Do you really think that Ted K. would have been happy in the medicare system.

    Doubtful?
     
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    Pandora Well-Known Member

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    From what I understand Congress, the senate and the white house and all the workers within and their families will be exempt from this plan if God forbid it passes.
     
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    pocketfullofshells Well-Known Member

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    well thats a good sign that your wrong then :)
     
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    Instead of just insults how about you show me where they are going to take the plan too?

    I have seen a number of them say no they wont be on the plan, some agree they should be on the plan but admit they wont be.
     
  5. chestnut

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    There have been some attempts to pass a bill that puts the congress on the same "public option" as they want to pass, but it gets voted down.


    HMMMM.. I wonder why?
     
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    What/When/Who...speaking in generalities about prior bills...do you have any exacts/facts, something, anything? Not that I doubt your 'truth factor' here, but this it the first that I heard that congress had tried and failed at passing a 'public option' in the past....HUH :confused:

    I don't fly on: "I heard that some were going to vote, or I heard that they voted it down"...easy to say but where and what bills were this supposed to be and when did that happen?
     
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    ASPCA4EVER New Member

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    Paranoia and extreme sensitivity seems to be the emotional bases for a couple of {cough...adults} around here ;)

    If you can't handle someone asking the question of what/when/who/where then by all means either always provide the 'proof' or don't post on a open opinion forum. JEEZ LOUISE...not all of us have the free time/energy and desire to spend googling the internet for everything available that is out there to read. So when someone {such as yourself} brings something that I've missed/didn't see and would like to read...for christsake don't be such a BABY about answering where you found it. :)
    I'll respond to the original post when I have time to read the LINK :rolleyes:
     
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    TheFranklinParty New Member

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    Two points to make on this thread:

    Ted Kennedy never said that he wanted an exclusive all encompassing single payer plan. He was always clear that his plan would cover the general population of American's, but he felt the military, gov't, and the wealthy should be outside the program.

    There is no question that there have been at least two suggested amendments to the HR 3200 in the form of a Congressional mandate to be part of any single payer system. The first one never had enough support to get into committee and the second one is waiting for the return of Congress, but it also doesn't have the number of votes required to get out of committee.

    The reason these are so hard to document and become fodder for speculation is because they are conversations in the hallways. They float an idea to see if they can get support, only to find there is none. At the same time they talk to the media about it as if it is a real bill or amendment. I believe they need a more democratic way to deal with these types of legislation versus allowing it to die just because some of the Congressional leaders won't let it come to the floor.
     
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    Amazing how so many of the facts on this 'LINK' that you provided seems to get lost in translation...from just the brief amount that I did read...it clearly states that the whole premise of forming the "Public Health Service Act" is to provide ALL OF AMERICA THE SAME HEALTH INSURANCE THAT THE FEDERAL EMPLOYEES CURRENTLY HAVE!!!

    Yet here you {ChestNUT} are making irresponsible claims/statements:

    Now I will know that you:

    1. just post misnomers because you don't check for the facts :rolleyes:
    2. don't check a right wing leaning article because you 'ASSume' that they are correct :rolleyes:
    3. you don't care about the facts; just post something inflammatory because people will respond and gather around your words as though you had something important to say ;) GOOD GRIEF how LAME can you get!

     
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    Just a question...did you pull that from the proposed Senate Bill? If so, which version? Thanks
     
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    From the source that Chestnut provided and the link to the proposal is right there in the first or second paragraph...I doubt that he {Chestnut} even bothered to read the post and look at the LINK or he surely wouldn't have made that blatantly irresponsible statement that he did! ;)

    http://84rules.wordpress.com/2009/08...d-health-care/

    Affordable Health Choices Act
     
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