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McCain's VP choice under ethics investigation

Discussion in 'U.S. Politics' started by Popeye, Aug 29, 2008.

  1. Popeye

    Popeye Active Member

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    Gov. Palin is embroiled in her own troopergate scandal up in Alaska. In short, she's accused of using her pull as governor to get her ex brother in law fired as a state trooper. The brother-in-law is embroiled in an ugly divorce and custody with Palin's sister. And after his boss wouldn't fire the brother in law, she fired the boss. Palin originally insisted there was nothing to the story. More recently, she was forced to admit the one of her top deputies had pushed to get the guy fired. She's obviously a member of the Republican's culture of corruption. This could get interesting.




    Here are a few more Alaskan Republicans involved in scandal:

    Sen. Ted Stevens: Last month, long-serving Alaska Sen. Ted Stevens was indicted by a federal grand jury “with seven counts of making false statements for failing to disclose” gifts of over $250,000 from the oil services company VECO Corp.

    State Sen. Ben Stevens (R): The senator’s son, Stevens is being investigated by the FBI for his involvement in “an alleged payment scheme involving fisheries legislation brought by his father.” When VECO’s Bill Allen “pleaded guilty to bribery and conspiracy charges, he stated that almost a quarter of a million dollars in consulting fees paid to the younger Stevens was in fact bribery.”

    Rep. Don Young (R): Last year, it was revealed that the senior House Republican was “under criminal investigation” involving “possible political favors for a for a company in Alaska.” In April, Young’s legal fees exceeded $1 million.
     
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    California Democratic Sen. Barbara Boxer had this to say about Palin's selection:

    "The Vice President is a heartbeat away from becoming President, so to choose someone with not one hour's worth of experience on national issues is a dangerous choice.

    "If John McCain thought that choosing Sarah Palin would attract Hillary Clinton voters, he is badly mistaken.

    "The only similarity between her and Hillary Clinton is that they are both women. On the issues, they could not be further apart.

    "Senator McCain had so many other options if he wanted to put a women on his ticket, such as Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison or Senator Olympia Snowe - they would have been an appropriate choice compared to this dangerous choice.

    "In addition, Sarah Palin is under investigation by the Alaska state legislature which makes this more incomprehensible."
     
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    Libsmasher New Member

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    What a howler! :D

    The dem PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE doesn't know what he's doing!! :p
     
  4. Andy

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    She did nothing wrong. There is no scandal. The appointed position of Public Safety Commissioner Walt Monegan, is an at will position. Sarah Palin has complete authority to dismiss him at a moments notice for any reason she deems fit. She could rightfully and legally dismiss him for nothing more than he smelled funny at the meeting last Thursday.

    This is why I could never be a democrat. Look at what they do to attack people they are against. Here the rest of the public attacks democrats for breaking laws, and democrats attack everyone else for following them.

    She wasn't 'forced to admit', she openly stated people in her administration wanted the man gone. Nice try at spinning that.
     
  5. Andy

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    In 1992, Clinton's inexperience was touted as a plus. Further, in both 1992 and 1996, Clinton had multiple investigation about far worse things than simply letting a appointed position go. Where were the cries about being under investigation and inexperience then?

    Another reason I could never be a democrat, a prerequisite of being a complete hypocrite from every angle. Do democrats have no shame?
     
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    But she's an ex-swimsuit model or beauty queen or something... Oh, I see here she was Miss Wasilla... nice. So we have that to fall back on in case of nuclear attack!:D

    Thank you... thank you so very much for this pick...
    :D

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    John McCain's dangerous gamble on Sarah Palin
    By DAN GERSTEIN

    Friday, August 29th 2008, 2:58 PM

    In picking an unknown, untested, half-a-term woman governor from Alaska to be his running mate, John McCain is following in a long line of reckless men who have rolled the dice for a beauty queen. Except in this case, McCain is taking one of the biggest, boldest gambles in modern American political history.

    He's betting his presidency on a naked political play for holdout Hillary supporters and other female swing voters - and hoping that a large share of these predominantly pro-choice women will ignore or overlook Palin's staunch pro-life, anti-stem cell views.

    But that's just the better half of it. McCain will now have to pull off a grand slam of cognitive dissonance - trying to discredit Barack Obama as unready to be Commander in Chief while trying to pawn off the least qualified candidate put on a national ticket in our lifetime as the second best choice to lead the most powerful nation in the world.
     
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    choosing the leader of world to have on the job training is the biggest mistake we could ever make... 2 Years in the us senate is not enough experience...
     
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    You tell that to the Anchorage Daily News 8-14 the investigation into Troopergate is still ongoing.

     
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    Interesting, considering she defeated the incumbent governor and backed the defeat of both Stevens and Young on the basis of their corruption.

    From another article in the Anchorage Daily News:

     
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    Completely irrelevant in my mind. She has the right to fire him for any reason she choose, regardless of what the paper thinks. Further, she had specific reasons for having him replaced, and offered him a different position.

    Again, she has complete legal right to fire or replace the Public Safty Commish for any reason she deems worthy, or even no reason at all. Even Steve Branchflower, who doing the investigation said it was her right. Further, even Democratic State Senator, Hollis French, who is overseeing the investigation, said that the Palin administration has been completely forth coming, and that they did not even have to issue subpoenas.

    Compare that to Hillary's billing records... in fact compared that to the entire 8 Clinton years. It's not even close, not remotely comparable.

    This is just more hypocrisy of the left. Claim they are all doing, what we do, but it's wrong for them.
     
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    She was an elected Offical while he was still a community organizer

    She been in charge of a city and a state, in that same time obama organized people to vote, was a state senator who did what? voted ? wow !! and after the first 180 days or so of being a us senator where he did what? wow vote? now he is running for president.

    I hope the dems attack her, I cant wait to see the bull dog biden bloody her nose in the debate, that should be choice! It will only hurt them
     
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    legal or not, you dont see that as abuse of power?
     
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    Not really, and its not going to make any difference in the election except for those who already do not like her. Kind of meaningless in my opinion.
     
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    I wonder how many people wont vote for her because they are sexist?


    Seems fair to ask since people are assumed to be racist if they dont like Obama or his policys
     
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    Well.... She doesn't look like any presidents on the dollar bills. :)

    Did I mention she's a woman? :D
     
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