1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.
  2. Discuss politics - join our community by registering for free here! HOP - the political discussion forum

Most Influential Person of Twentieth Century?

Discussion in 'Historical Events & Figures' started by Abide, Feb 7, 2007.

  1. Abide

    Abide New Member

    Joined:
    Feb 6, 2007
    Messages:
    5
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Im not sure yet, my guess right now is tentative but Im gonna say Truman.
     
  2. InterestedParty

    InterestedParty New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2007
    Messages:
    84
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    Buffalo, New York
    Good or bad?

    Good... FDR. The man didn't serve 3 terms as President because he was lucky.

    Bad... BinLaden
     
  3. OldSchool Politician

    OldSchool Politician New Member

    Joined:
    Feb 9, 2007
    Messages:
    11
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    The Heart of Detroit
    Bill Clinton is da Man.

    No Doult ....It was William.Jefferson.Clinton. He was the coolist, and still is the coolist
     
  4. USMC the Almighty

    USMC the Almighty New Member

    Joined:
    Feb 4, 2007
    Messages:
    2,070
    Likes Received:
    14
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Haha, that's just funny. Tell me three positive things that Clinton did. BTW -- nice spelling of "coolest".
     
  5. Archangelwolf

    Archangelwolf New Member

    Joined:
    Dec 22, 2006
    Messages:
    56
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    Texas
    20 million new jobs
    lowest unemployment rate
    highest home ownership rate in history
    lowest crime rate
    reduced welfare rolls
    first balanced budget in decades
    affordable college loans
    affordable veteran's benefits

    Should I continue?

    I will leave with this tidbit of information. In 2000, before being elected Vice-President, Dick Cheney made the following statement: "A commander-in-chief leads the military built by those who came before him. There is little that he or his defense secretary can do to improve the force they have to deploy. It is all the work of previous administrations. Decisions made today shape the forces of tomorrow.....when that first (Persian Gulf) war ended, the first thing I did was to place a call to California and say thank you President Ronald Reagan...."

    Hmmm, I think Bill Clinton is still waiting for his phone call.

    Arch.
     
  6. Archangelwolf

    Archangelwolf New Member

    Joined:
    Dec 22, 2006
    Messages:
    56
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    Texas
    Franklin D. Roosevelt

    He was willing to try ANYTHING to help the American people out; damn the consequences.

    Arch.
     
  7. Nammy

    Nammy Guest

    FDR was a good pres.

    Can't deny that.
     
  8. vyo476

    vyo476 Active Member

    Joined:
    Apr 10, 2007
    Messages:
    2,401
    Likes Received:
    11
    Trophy Points:
    38
    Location:
    Massachusetts
    You sure as hell can, especially if you're a Libertarian like our friend Truth. I'm surprised he hasn't jumped all over you for this yet but maybe he's just getting a bit tired of it all.

    Bottom line: WWII saved America from the Great Depression, not Franklin Delano Roosevelt. And Arch, that whole "damn the consequences" thing was old after the first time you used it, which, in the order of your posts on FDR that I've read today, was about eighteen or so times ago. I'd be mildly interested in learning where you heard that phrase from; it slightly resembles Admiral David Farragut's quote, "Damn the torpedoes! Full steam ahead!" from the Civil War, but somehow I doubt that this was a reference you were trying to make.
     
  9. vyo476

    vyo476 Active Member

    Joined:
    Apr 10, 2007
    Messages:
    2,401
    Likes Received:
    11
    Trophy Points:
    38
    Location:
    Massachusetts
    The topic is "influential," not "positive." That said I agree: Clinton wasn't exactly an Earth-shatteringly important man. Not in the way that, say Josef Stalin was. Negative as his impact on the world was it was unshakingly a huge one; he was at the helm of the Soviet militarism that more or less created the Cold War, overseeing the transition of the Soviet Union from a benign, undernourished wasteland to a leader in global politics (read: global scare tactics).

    Anyone feel like disagreeing...?
     
  10. USMC the Almighty

    USMC the Almighty New Member

    Joined:
    Feb 4, 2007
    Messages:
    2,070
    Likes Received:
    14
    Trophy Points:
    0
    It's hard to disagree with someone who's position is spot on...
     
  11. The Founders Intent

    The Founders Intent New Member

    Joined:
    Apr 27, 2007
    Messages:
    79
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    VA
    FDR introduced socialism into the govt.
     
  12. endtyranny

    endtyranny New Member

    Joined:
    Apr 29, 2007
    Messages:
    12
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    I'd say unfortunately either Hitler or Stalin. I wish Eisenhower was more influence, he was a real president and if more had followed his example, the world would be a much better place.
     
  13. vyo476

    vyo476 Active Member

    Joined:
    Apr 10, 2007
    Messages:
    2,401
    Likes Received:
    11
    Trophy Points:
    38
    Location:
    Massachusetts
    Yeah, 'cause if you ever need someone to ignore Joseph McCarthy, there's no better man than Dwight D. Eisenhower.
     
  14. USMC the Almighty

    USMC the Almighty New Member

    Joined:
    Feb 4, 2007
    Messages:
    2,070
    Likes Received:
    14
    Trophy Points:
    0
    That's not honest I would shoulder more of the blame for McCarthyism on Truman.

    It was ultimately McCarthy's accusations of Ike and the Army that got him censured.
     
  15. vyo476

    vyo476 Active Member

    Joined:
    Apr 10, 2007
    Messages:
    2,401
    Likes Received:
    11
    Trophy Points:
    38
    Location:
    Massachusetts
    Marshall and Truman most certainly caused McCarthyism to become a possibility. Eisenhower just ignored him.

    So what does that say? Eisenhower got upset when McCarthy started picking on him, but while he was picking on the people of the United States it was okay? Eisenhower just isn't my favorite president.
     
Loading...

Share This Page