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The Bible is a reliable science text

Discussion in 'Science & Technology' started by invest07, Jan 28, 2009.

  1. invest07

    invest07 Member

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    One of the facts that many people do not understand is that the Bible contains many surprisingly accurate statements of scientific facts. These scientific statements were written hundreds and thousands of years before being verified as true by secular science.

    I’m certain that you atheistas and God deniers out there see the Bible as an interesting piece of literature, perhaps dangerous, and full of myths and legends which can’t be verified. I’m also certain you deny there is anything divinely inspired in the Bible. You are wrong and this forum will present the facts concerning scientific facts revealed in the pages of the Bible.

    The Bible contains 66 books and scholars have firmly identified the authorship and date of writing of 65 of those books. The Bible was written over a period of around 2,000 years by several different authors. The Bible includes books devoted to history, law, poetry and prophecy.

    The Old Testament was written in Hebrew, which is one of the most ancient of humankind’s languages. The New Testament was written in a common dialect of Greek. The earliest book is Job, written about 4,000 years ago. The most recent is Revelation, authored about 95 AD, during the reign of the Roman Emperor Domitian.

    Because most of you atheistas and God deniers have never studied the Bible and probably don’t own a Bible, I have included a link to a Bible translation web site. All the verses I will quote are from the New King James translation which was done in 1975. http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/

    God and the Periodic Table

    Genesis 2:7 Then the LORD God formed man of dust from the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living being.
    Genesis 3:19 By the sweat of your face You will eat bread, till you return to the ground, because from it you were taken; for you are dust, and to dust you shall return.

    The Bible clearly says that the human body is composed of the same elements as the earth. And, upon death, our bodies will return to an elemental state. If you want to see firsthand the composition of the human body, read the contents label of any multivitamin. You will see elements such as iron, calcium, phosphorus, magnesium, iodine, zinc, selenium, copper, manganese, chromium, molybdenum, chloride, sodium, nickel, boron, silicon, tin. These compounds and elements are in each multivitamin tablet because tissue analysis has revealed your body contains all of these.

    These verses were authored by Moses circa 1450 BC. These verses was laughed at by the secular scientific community, including the Greeks, until the 1800’s. By 1869, 63 elements had been identified. As the number of elements grew, scientists began to recognize certain patterns in properties and began to develop classification schemes. The result of this was the Periodic Table. The development of the Periodic Table was significant in that it defined all known elements and demonstrated the idea that all matter, organic or inorganic, was composed of these elements.

    The bible revealed the truth about the composition of the human body over 3000 years before science was able to verify this.
     
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    What the Bible says about the hydrologic cycle

    Job 36:27-29
    For He draws up drops of water,
    Which distill as rain from the mist,
    Which the clouds drop down
    And pour abundantly on man.

    These 2 verses are from the Book of Job, which was written around 4,000 years ago. Western science would not completely identify and understand the hydrologic cycle until 300 years ago.

    Notice the remarkable scientific insight in this description. Water is drawn upward from the surface of the earth, in the form of a mist (steam). Before it can rain it must distill into water droplets from the mist (clouds). The distillation process requires cooling of the hot gas before it can be distilled into a liquid.

    Ecclesiastes 1:7
    All the rivers run into the sea,
    Yet the sea is not full;
    To the place from which the rivers come,
    There they return again.

    This verse was written by Solomon around 950 BC. The sea receives water from all the rivers but the sea is never full. This is because of evaporation, which empties the seas. Runoff from rivers is balanced by evaporation so the relative level of the seas remains about the same. Solomon clearly understands this evaporation as he explains that the river water returns to it’s place of origin, which is rainfall and snow in mountainous areas or underground springs. The last line explains that this is a cycle that repeats itself.

    When you combine this verse with the 2 verses from Job, you have an accurate description in language that is readily understandable of the entire earthly hydrological cycle.

    The Bible correctly and accurately described the cycle of water on the Earth thousands of years before science was able to.
     
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    I like those vs. too.

    Its been a while since I read them, thanks for posting
     
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    God created the fish of the sea, the fowls of the air, the beasts of the field, and finally, man.

    That's the same sequence that evolutionary science has discovered, isn't it?

    There's a lot of truth in the Bible, that collection of old books. Most of it is too simplistic to be used as a science book, though. It would make a much better book of philosophy.

    If humankind, or if even the Christians, followed the philosophy of Christ, the world wold be a much better place, don't you think?
     
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    The ancient Hindu texts also contain some interesting insights about the age of the universe - ancient people were not by any means stupid.
     
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    The Bible vs Hindu and Greek beliefs about water

    The only ancient religious text that is not full of mythology is the Bible. The false religion of the Hindus is full of legends, fantastic stories, and Superman like characters. Here is a brief description from Hindu mythology related to the topic of the water cycle:

    “Vritra, an asura, stole all the water in the world and Indra drank much Soma to prepare himself for the battle with the huge serpent. He passed through Vritra's ninety-nine fortresses, slew the monster and brought water back to Earth.”

    Even the supposedly enlightened Greek beliefs were based on the obviously supernatural and were not even close to reality:

    “Tefnut was the goddess for rain, dew and moisture and was the second to be made by Atum next to her twin brother Shu, the air god. With their parents earth-god Geb and sky goddess Nut, they made a quartet of earth, air, sky and water. Tefnut and her husband Shu were the children of Atum who created them by masturbating.”

    Not only were Greek beliefs about water clearly mythological in nature, it is clear that they had serious misconceptions about childbirth and fertilization.

    One important measure of any ancient text is how well the content of the text applies in today’s modern world. The Bible is the ONLY ancient religious text that accurately states scientific facts that are well accepted today. And that is the difference between all the false religions and the one and only true religion. That is the difference between the true beliefs of the Christians and Jews and the new age crap of Oprah.
     
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    Amazing! What other things could the human body possibly be made out of?

    BTW, there is not much tin, molybddenum, chromium, boron, or manganese in the human body.
     
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    Re: The Bible vs Hindu and Greek beliefs about water

    Geb, Atum, Tefnut, Shu, and Nut were Egytian Gods, not Greek Gods. When you promote this Biblical nonsense, at least get some of your facts straight.
     
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    I have seen many an intended scientific textbook that did not make a very reliable science textbook.

    So while, yes, the bible does touch on science it is not intended to be a textbook, one should not read too much into it as far as calling it a textbook.

    It is accurate but one should not forget that it is using a variety of literary devices to communicate. I personally would not take a poetic passage and try to make a case for a scientific principle from it. I certainly would see some interesting similarities. And there are no contradictions between the best interpretations of the bible and the best interpretations of science.
     
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    Viewed purely as an ancient religious text, the Bible is not too bad about its scientific explanations. The Catholics and religious liberals do quite well at interpreting the Bible in such as way as not to be too far out of tune with most modern scientific knowledge.
     
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    True enough. The Biblical literalists, however, have a hard time with science. I've yet to get one to tell me just how those two kangaroos made it all the way from Mount Ararat to Australia, across the ocean and all, and repopulated that continent, or what the two lions ate on their way back to Africa.
     
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    There is some truth, and a lot of falsehood, in all human religions. None of us have all the answers, so it make some sense to hedge our bets. Humankind may never have all the answers.
     
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    Apology to samsara

    You are 100% correct. Tefnut and his buds are all from Egyptian mythology and not from Greek. I stand corrected. It was the enlightened ancient Egyptians who fantasized that people came from a horny God giving himself a hand job. And just when you thought that a date with Mary 5 Finger was safe sex.

    Shame, shame on me and spank my knuckles with a ruler. If you wish, I will stand facing the corner for 15 minutes and turn myself into the principal for detention.

    Samsara, come on down and Ms. Wormwood will paste a gold star in your notebook.
     
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    PLC1, lions and kangas

    Since we are talking about the logistics of Noah and company, maybe you can help me out with this problem concerning evolution.

    According to the Darwinistas, humans evolved from some ape-like beings that split from the apes a few million years or so ago. All this is supposed to have happened in Africa. So how did these ancient ape-like beings also wind up in Australia? It is a couple of thousand miles from Aussieville to the nearest island and several thousand more to the Asian mainland.

    Were these ape-like beings just real good swimmers? Or did they trade in a whole bunch of their bone clubs for a sailing yacht? Did they learn to whale surf or something? It's a long way to the Aussie Island from Asia.

    The descendants of these Aussie ape-like creatures are genetically compatible with humans from Africa and China and Europe. So these ape-like beings would have to evolve into humans that, by pure chance, are genetically identical to humans from Africa. This kind of makes the possiblity of independent but parallel evolution seem ridiculous.

    I have yet to hear an explanation from a Darwinista that makes the least bit of sense out of this. Of course, if there really were an almighty God and he decided to populate the entire earth with something more than dumb animals, putting humans on Australia and Africa at the same time would be a piece of cake. No problemo for God but BIG, HUGE, GIGONDA, HUMONGOUS problemo for Darwin and crew.

    Kind of makes you wonder if these Darwinistas really do have all the answers that they claim to have.
     
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    There are a lot of islands between Asia and Australia. Even primitive people can build boats. Humankind radiated out of Africa, over a long period of time.
     
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