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The Grid; DEAD-TECH!!!!

Discussion in 'U.S. Politics' started by Mr. Shaman, Aug 19, 2009.

  1. Mr. Shaman

    Mr. Shaman Well-Known Member

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    We're gettin' one-component-CLOSER!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    One MORE example of living in a PROGRESSIVE-Country!!!
     
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    Pidgey Well-Known Member

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    Try researching Indium and Gallium.
     
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    No comment?
     
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    I had this discussion with "Andy" some time ago when he said referring to cars, "We've went about as far a we can go with battery technology."

    I tried to remind him that these little Nextel flip phones look and act a whole lot like a once sci-fi Star Trek "communicator" and those microwave ovens are kinda common now too.

    But you know the "we can't do any better" crowd... let's nicely call them Republicants. They aren't big on change!:)
     
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    'Tis true. "Good enough" works for them....'cause, there's no work, required!!!!
     
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    Package it and make it economically viable in the private market and you will see everyone supporting the idea. No one opposes change, it is mandated change that is not sustainable in the private market that we oppose.
     
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    Well, what I was referring to is the availability of the necessary materials. "Rare Earths" aren't called that for no reason... In any case, I don't have anything against innovation, I even had a high-technology patent myself that really works. The problems so far for solar (specifically photo-voltaics) and for wind, apparently, is the actual quantity of the stuff to make them that is geologically commercially available, not to mention who owns what there is. It's not a pretty picture if you need 20 quadrillion BTU's replacement of primary energy production and you've got the stuff to only actually manage a 1% fraction of that (not real numbers but within an order of magnitude). A battery isn't of much value if you don't have anything to charge it with on the scale required. "In situ" is always a b!tch.
     
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    You make a very good point. The renewable crowd fails to recognize that the power for all of the gadgets and electric cars has to come from somewhere and in the next 10 or 20 years it sure isn't going to be from Solar or Wind, so while we expand and improve those technologies let's realize that we need to work with what we have and make it more efficient and effective.
     
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    Well... yet another article detailing some of the problems with respect to the availability of the "Rare Earths" required in renewable energy products:

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/livescience...rtageofrareearthelementscouldthwartinnovation

    It's interesting to note that only China allows some of the manufacturing processes that are required to refine some of these rare earths. Must be some pretty nasty processes...
     
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