the libs were right. Obama gives U.S. better image

[chestnut]

Yeah. Obama is doing a great job in that department.


http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSTRE52L19G20090322

 

[tarheelconservative]

Absolutely, I also think that Obama should stand between us and the people with the nukes, and TALK to them when they start attacking the U.S. and our allies.

 

[Dr.Who]

About Bush Chavez said:

“He thinks he is Columbus, discovering poverty after seven years in power.”


But about Obama Cheavez said:

"[] the least I can say is that he's a poor ignoramus; he should read and study a little to understand reality," said Chavez,

 

[PLC1]

We care what Hugo Chavez says about any of our leaders.... why again?

 

[Pandora]

We care what Hugo Chavez says about any of our leaders.... why again?

Well we cared about it when he spoke of Bush; we cared what every nut case leader said about President Bush.

One of the big reasons obama got elected is he would bring change and makes the world love us again.

Apparently that was a campaign promise like the dog for the kids

Just words, just speeches....

 

[chestnut]

My point exactly , Pandora.

 

[PLC1]

Well we cared about it when he spoke of Bush; we cared what every nut case leader said about President Bush.

One of the big reasons obama got elected is he would bring change and makes the world love us again.

Apparently that was a campaign promise like the dog for the kids

Just words, just speeches....

Oh, well, if we cared about what Chavez said about Bush, then we should care what he says about Obama. I agree with that.

Personally, I could care less what that big fat loudmouth says about anyone, and I don't think mine is a minority opinion.

 

[Pandora]

Oh, well, if we cared about what Chavez said about Bush, then we should care what he says about Obama. I agree with that.

Personally, I could care less what that big fat loudmouth says about anyone, and I don't think mine is a minority opinion.

I never cared then, and I only care now because of the people who made such a huge deal about it when it was about Bush but crawled back in their little tiny rat holes and plugged their ears when its said about obama.

 

[Mr. Shaman]

We care what Hugo Chavez says about any of our leaders.... why again?

It's a primeval-need that "conservatives" have....some individual, around-which they can (all) rally-against, so it appears they're participaing in the political-process....without doing any (actual) thinking; much like moths around a light-bulb. It gives them a sense of usefulness & accomplishment.

 

[Andy]

Oh, well, if we cared about what Chavez said about Bush, then we should care what he says about Obama. I agree with that.

Personally, I could care less what that big fat loudmouth says about anyone, and I don't think mine is a minority opinion.

I also think it's important because Chavez is a socialist, and is systematically destroying his entire country. And further, he identifies Obama as a counterpart to himself, and openly encouraged Obama to embrace Socialism.

Now obviously, with any other non-socialist leader, Chavez would never do this.

This is important because we as a people, should not have to enact policies, that Chavez has demonstrated have massive negative repercussions, in order to find out they don't work.

We should see his example, and the havoc it's caused Venezuela, and see we don't want to go there. Further, we should identify Obama with Chavez, because clearly Chavez does, and be against him.

 

[Mr. Shaman]

I also think it's important because Chavez is a socialist, and is systematically destroying his entire country.

Gee.....what great examples, you've provided, of all-of-the destruction he's committed.

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[PLC1]

I also think it's important because Chavez is a socialist, and is systematically destroying his entire country. And further, he identifies Obama as a counterpart to himself, and openly encouraged Obama to embrace Socialism.

Now obviously, with any other non-socialist leader, Chavez would never do this.

This is important because we as a people, should not have to enact policies, that Chavez has demonstrated have massive negative repercussions, in order to find out they don't work.

We should see his example, and the havoc it's caused Venezuela, and see we don't want to go there. Further, we should identify Obama with Chavez, because clearly Chavez does, and be against him.

Now, that just doesn't make sense. If Chavez really sees Obama as a fellow socialist, why would he badmouth him? Why wouldn't he praise Obama for following his great example of socializing his country?

 

[Ronaldus Magnus]

Well, if making us look like a giant push over, then I guess right now we look like a million bucks. Although, Chavez may have just had his invite to the Lincoln bedroom lost in the mail. Maybe Chavez just hasn't heard how smart our teleprompter....ah I mean... President sounds. Chavez may want to listen to Obama though, because Obama may have managed to take over more things in his first two months in power.

 

[Andy]

Gee.....what great examples, you've provided, of all-of-the destruction he's committed.

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Ah, another well informed leftist. Shaman, can you tell me on what topic you actually do know enough about, that I don't have to educate you on current affairs?

It's interesting that you feel the need to comment on nearly every topic, and yet openly state your ignorance at every topic.

Economic policy of Hugo Chavez government (1999 - present)

Some quick quotes:

Public spending in Venezuela has reached unprecedented highs, as measured by local currency Central Bank debt, which could increase inflation. The Annual inflation has risen to 16%, the highest in the Americas, as President Chavez tripled government spending from 2003 to 2007.

Sounds a bit familiar, eh? Obama in one month in office, doubled our national debt, and we've already heard the warnings of coming inflation.

Since 2003, the Venezuelan government has set price controls on around 400 basic foods; it is reported that these price controls have caused "sporadic food shortages" due to the regulated prices not keeping pace with inflation so that producers are faced with either selling their goods at 30-60% above the regulated price, or with hoarding in hope of government action.

Price controls cause shortages? You mean like Carters gas price controls caused gasoline shortages?

CEO Hans Helmerich, who had said last month that three Venezuelan rigs had been idled, repeated that his company would keep shutting down rigs as long as a dispute over nearly $100 million owed by the country's state oil company, PDVSA, continued.

PDVSA has amassed huge debts and sources have said it is skipping payments to partners and service providers as weaker oil prices and heavy government social spending have sapped its finances.

So a company in our country operates oil rigs for Venezuelan's nationalized oil company, and shockingly the company isn't paying for service... because Chavez has bankrupted the government.

Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez has ordered the army to take control of all rice processing plants in the country.

Can you imagine what would have happened if Bush's failed policies shut down all the food plants in the US, and then sent in the Army to force people to work jobs that can't earn money? Reminds me of Russian Gulags.

Contreras called the government-set prices on many products "fantasy prices" that are below production costs. Milk, chicken, coffee and flour have disappeared from store shelves in Caracas at times this year.

Shortages have sporadically appeared with items from milk to coffee since early 2003, when Chavez began regulating prices for 400 basic products as a way to counter inflation and protect the poor.

Most items can still be found, but only by paying a hefty markup at grocery stores or on the black market. A glance at prices in several Caracas supermarkets this week showed milk, ground coffee, cheese and beans selling between 30 percent to 60 percent above regulated prices.

So they have to find such questionable items as "milk" on the black market, due to Chavez's brilliant socialist controls?

Ok Shaman, are you educated a little bit? The nationalized companies are failing, the price controls are causing shortages, the government spending is causing inflation spikes, and people are buying rice and milk on the black market because they can't profitably be sold in stores. Sounds a bit like Carter, and now Obama, doesn't it?

 

[Andy]

Now, that just doesn't make sense. If Chavez really sees Obama as a fellow socialist, why would he badmouth him? Why wouldn't he praise Obama for following his great example of socializing his country?

He did until Obama made the politically correct move of saying he supported terrorism, which Chavez does. Chavez was a huge fan boy of Obama before then.