BO Appeases

[Gipper]

Why do liberals always appease our enemies? Because they are so ignorant of reality and history. We have lost in Afghan due to BO's weakness. We should get out now rather than continue to bleed our troops. This is disgusting, but so typical.

Cheney nails BO here and he is as usual so right!!!


Dick Cheney slams President Obama for projecting ‘weakness’
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1109/30024.html
But Cheney said the average Afghan citizen “sees talk about exit strategies and how soon we can get out, instead of talk about how we win.

“Those folks ... begin to look for ways to accommodate their enemies,” Cheney said. “They’re worried the United States isn’t going to be there much longer and the bad guys are.”

 

[Mr. Shaman]

Why do liberals always appease our enemies? Because they are so ignorant of reality and history. We have lost in Afghan due to BO's weakness. We should get out now rather than continue to bleed our troops. This is disgusting, but so typical.

Cheney nails BO here and he is as usual so right!!!


Dick Cheney slams President Obama for projecting ‘weakness’

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BEEN there!!!!

BILL MOYERS: In 1964 we're drafting 17,000 Americans into the military every month. When Bundy suggests that we may limit domestic opposition to our growing involvement in Vietnam by using only volunteers to fight there the President doesn't buy it. He's got the election on his mind, alright, but there is something else eating away at him.

LYNDON B. JOHNSON: Did you see the poll this morning? 65 percent of 'em don't know anything about it and of those that do, the majority think we're mishandling it. But they don't know what to do. That's Gallup.

MCGEORGE BUNDY: Yes, yes.

LYNDON B. JOHNSON: It's damned easy to get in a war but it's gonna be awfully hard to ever extricate yourself if you get in.

MCGEORGE BUNDY: It's very easy. I'm very sensitive to the fact that people who are having trouble with an intransigent problem find it very easy to come and say to the President of the United States "Go and be tough."

 

[PLC1]

Why do liberals always appease our enemies? Because they are so ignorant of reality and history. We have lost in Afghan due to BO's weakness. We should get out now rather than continue to bleed our troops. This is disgusting, but so typical.

Cheney nails BO here and he is as usual so right!!!


Dick Cheney slams President Obama for projecting ‘weakness’
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1109/30024.html
But Cheney said the average Afghan citizen “sees talk about exit strategies and how soon we can get out, instead of talk about how we win.

“Those folks ... begin to look for ways to accommodate their enemies,” Cheney said. “They’re worried the United States isn’t going to be there much longer and the bad guys are.”

What would we expect Cheney to say? How about , "Gosh, we went into Afganistan and Iraq with no clear goals in mind, and no exit strategy. Isn't it a good thing that we now have a CIC who understands that making war without any exit strategy is a bad idea?"

How about, "We should have learned our lesson in Vietnam, a war that was escalated by a CIC who was, by anyone's definition, a liberal Democrat. We didn't learn, so the liberal Republicans, headed by Bush repeated the same mistake."

Or, perhaps Cheney could have said, "It doesn't matter which party finally puts an end to the costly and ineffective war in the Mid East, as long as someone does."

But no, the great Neoconservative (which is quite a different thing from a real conservative) is still buying into the goals of the Project for a New American Century and thinks we can and should impose a Pax Americana on the rest of the world by force of arms.

But he and his puppet president are no longer in power, praise be to God, Allah, and term limits.

 

[BigRob]

What would we expect Cheney to say? How about , "Gosh, we went into Afganistan and Iraq with no clear goals in mind, and no exit strategy. Isn't it a good thing that we now have a CIC who understands that making war without any exit strategy is a bad idea?"

How about, "We should have learned our lesson in Vietnam, a war that was escalated by a CIC who was, by anyone's definition, a liberal Democrat. We didn't learn, so the liberal Republicans, headed by Bush repeated the same mistake."

Or, perhaps Cheney could have said, "It doesn't matter which party finally puts an end to the costly and ineffective war in the Mid East, as long as someone does."

But no, the great Neoconservative (which is quite a different thing from a real conservative) is still buying into the goals of the Project for a New American Century and thinks we can and should impose a Pax Americana on the rest of the world by force of arms.

But he and his puppet president are no longer in power, praise be to God, Allah, and term limits.

He has a point. How can you follow a strategy to get tribes on your side when you all but announce that you are going to leave soon? Tribes in Iraq started to get on board when it became very clear we were not leaving.

 

[PLC1]

He has a point. How can you follow a strategy to get tribes on your side when you all but announce that you are going to leave soon? Tribes in Iraq started to get on board when it became very clear we were not leaving.

Not ever?

 

[always]

Why do liberals always appease our enemies? Because they are so ignorant of reality and history. We have lost in Afghan due to BO's weakness. We should get out now rather than continue to bleed our troops. This is disgusting, but so typical.

Cheney nails BO here and he is as usual so right!!!


Dick Cheney slams President Obama for projecting ‘weakness’
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1109/30024.html
But Cheney said the average Afghan citizen “sees talk about exit strategies and how soon we can get out, instead of talk about how we win.

“Those folks ... begin to look for ways to accommodate their enemies,” Cheney said. “They’re worried the United States isn’t going to be there much longer and the bad guys are.”

B.O. is sooo weak his "prompter" went limp!
How did a "community Organizer" from Chicago ever become a leader of these United states?? I'M not sure he is even a Native Born Citizen. The two jerks in question now for entering a White House function illegally MAY NOT be the only TWO to do so. We still have not seen B.O.'s REAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE!!
His legal presidency is very smelly! SHOW US THE MONEY!! AMERICA may get out of its DANGER by proving he is not just UNFIT BUT ILLEGAL!!

TRUTH!! The best way to lose B.O. since LIFEBOUY SOAP!! HEY , it beats a CIVIL WAR!

 

[BigRob]

Not ever?

We will leave eventually, but asking a tribe to get on board with you while you at the same time announce we want to get out asap, you will not get much cooperation.

 

[ASPCA4EVER]

He has a point. How can you follow a strategy to get tribes on your side when you all but announce that you are going to leave soon? Tribes in Iraq started to get on board when it became very clear we were not leaving.

And here I was thinking the tribal chiefs were coming around prior to their election because:
1. they had hopes that the election was going to make a change in their leadership
2. that the concessions that our negotiations pushed so hard on were finally starting to float to the surface
Concessions: build more community infractures, find a product that could be a mainstay for their people {besides the heroin poppy fields that they've known for centuries}
3. that we the aggressor were 'NOT' going to be large & in charge for EVER...that we were going to actually have a PLAN to leave their country...per our elected president, get out in 2010

 

[Gipper]

We will leave eventually, but asking a tribe to get on board with you while you at the same time announce we want to get out asap, you will not get much cooperation.

Exactly what Cheney said.

We might as well get out now or dramatically reduce our footprint. This is not going to end well. BO resembles Jimma Carter, but this Afghan thing could get him lumped in with the Butcher of Vietnam - LBJ.

 

[pocketfullofshells]

We will leave eventually, but asking a tribe to get on board with you while you at the same time announce we want to get out asap, you will not get much cooperation.

Also saying you will not leave any time soon, tells the goverment they don't need to work on fixing there own problems, they can just keep handing them off to us to fix. Do you realy think the people think the US has any plans to stick around in that hell hole for years and years after 7 years already? And if they do, I bet those don't see it as a good thing. And In Iraq they joined us, becuse they got sick of Suicide attacks killing there people ...not becuse they thought we would stick around forever and watch them. How many years after the awakening did we start pulling out? not even a year...I think they know we are not leaving in a year.

 

[pocketfullofshells]

We will leave eventually, but asking a tribe to get on board with you while you at the same time announce we want to get out asap, you will not get much cooperation.

we want them to get on board with afgan goverment...not us, and the goverment is not leaving ( though some in it should)

 

[Bunz]

I dont think Dick Cheney has much credibility in my book when it comes to administering a war. He has proven himself to be a notable failure in that department.

 

[pocketfullofshells]

I dont think Dick Cheney has much credibility in my book when it comes to administering a war. He has proven himself to be a notable failure in that department.

"I think they're in the last throes, if you will,
of the insurgancy. 2005

of course that is easy to say since the mission was accomplished

we will be greated as liberators ( he forgot that part that said..but a few...and shot ot by many...and then stand in the middle will one group of the many tries to kill the other group of the many....)

On the March 16, 2003, broadcast of CBS' Face the Nation, Cheney stated: "I think [the war will] go relatively quickly."

In a February 7, 2003, appearance at Aviano Air Base in Italy, Rumsfeld projected that the Iraq war "could last six days, six weeks. I doubt six months."

In a February 13, 2002, Washington Post op-ed, Ken Adelman, at the time a member of the Defense Policy Board, stated: "I believe demolishing Hussein's military power and liberating Iraq would be a cakewalk. Let me give simple, responsible reasons: (1) It was a cakewalk last time; (2) they've become much weaker; (3) we've become much stronger; and (4) now we're playing for keeps."

http://mediamatters.org/research/200508260004

 

[PLC1]

We will leave eventually, but asking a tribe to get on board with you while you at the same time announce we want to get out asap, you will not get much cooperation.

Maybe sending in 30,000 more troops will convince them we're serious. After that, we need to have a clear exit strategy so that the tribes know just when we do plan to leave.

Then, we need to stick to it.

 

[Mr. Shaman]

What would we expect Cheney to say? How about , "Gosh, we went into Afganistan and Iraq with no clear goals in mind, and no exit strategy. Isn't it a good thing that we now have a CIC who understands that making war without any exit strategy is a bad idea?"

How about, "We should have learned our lesson in Vietnam, a war that was escalated by a CIC who was, by anyone's definition, a liberal Democrat. We didn't learn, so the liberal Republicans, headed by Bush repeated the same mistake."

Or, perhaps Cheney could have said, "It doesn't matter which party finally puts an end to the costly and ineffective war in the Mid East, as long as someone does."

But no, the great Neoconservative (which is quite a different thing from a real conservative) is still buying into the goals of the Project for a New American Century and thinks we can and should impose a Pax Americana on the rest of the world by force of arms.

Hey, you know.....old-soldiers always like a good-fight.....well, except for actual combat-Vets.