the government is not obligated to share classified information with the general public.This is one of the most idiotic arguments I've witnessed on this board.
The real issue at hand here is whether or not activities that the government supports or allows are in agreement with its public policies.
Although I've heard discussions that semantics are confusing or the wording is vague, it does seem that the torture of prisoners by our military is in conflict with our public policy on torture.
This is not a discussion about the effectiveness of torture. It is not a discussion of the effectiveness of an "eye for an eye" mentality. It is not a discussion of what other countries do to their military prisoners. It is not a discussion of whether or not government and its agencies have the need to keep information from the public sphere. I some cases that's most certainly true, but I do believe that this issue needs to live, breathe, and be debated in the public sphere.
It is purely a discussion of the apparent disagreement between our actions and our policies.
That being said, I hope that this debate and discussion continues, because I firmly believe that the good of a people can only be served through discussion and debate.
No, last time I read the Constitution, the government works for ME.
Hang on. No one ever said that ALL governmental information is to be kept from the public, nor did anyone say that NO governmental information is to be kept from the public.
This issue has become a public issue, and the government has to treat it that way.
CIA tapes are not public information. never have been. Gitmo is a classified prison.
the government issued a statement that says: Bush doesn't remember any tapes.
end of story.
so what is it that you really want to know?
that Bush is a crook?
that Gitmo tortures?
that the CIA are tough guys?
the exact methods of torture?
so what is it that you really want to know?-Everything
that Bush is a crook?-Already been proved
that Gitmo tortures?-Gitmo is a disgrace
that the CIA are tough guys?-many seem to fit the definition of bullies, not tough guys.
the exact methods of torture?-exactly
or you just worried about the Constitution and not real life?
First off, this country has lost credibility, and now the moral high ground by advocating and using torture.
You don't care about the Constitution? What do you suggest, it be trashed whenever an episode of your defined "real life" crops up?
so the reputation of the US is of the most utmost importance... in your mind?
and somehow it's the daily job of all the US citizens to fight for the Constitution for no specific reason?
not the kidnapping, torture, beheading of US citizens or things like 911?